That’s exactly what my friend asked me yesterday morning when he called me. He is a mainstream reporter and writer that I have been friends with for years. I have to admit I have asked myself the same question.
Lets start at the beginning. According to reports last week Kayden Kross invested one million dollars in arrangementfinders.com, an investment that purchased her the presidency. Next she moved on veronica Vain, snatching her out from under Evil Angel Video who had extended some sort of contract offer to her. Vain is the latest porn flash in the pan known as the Wall Street Porn Star. Vain will be the new face of the company with a marketing campaign and reportedly a movie based around her. Vain will be replacing former company spokes-model Bree Olson. The company has recently drawn a lot of harsh criticism for being nothing more than a front for prostitution. ABC News recently did a special and several cities including Chicago have banned the sites billboards.
In the past the companies ownership was low key (Its owned by the same company that owns AshleyMadison.com the website that encourages and facilitates affairs.) Kayden Kross will now the front man and potentially the fall guy for the site.
The site claims it is not prostitution but many prosecutors do not agree.
This is what lead my friend to ask the question. Why would she pay one million dollars to set herself up to be the fall guy? As my friend said “This is a prostitution bust waiting to happen, specially after what happened yesterday with SilkRoad website owner Dread Pirate Roberts”… (he was convicted on all counts and faces a 30 year prison sentence.)
There seems to be some desire to follow in the footsteps of Bree Olson on the part of Kayden but this one one ups her with a stake in the company, but it also puts Kaydens neck out…a long way.
Kayden is no stranger to such things…Back around 2008 she was indicted on felony real estate fraud charges that resulted in a veteran losing his home. Kayden claimed that she was scammed more than anyone in that transaction and plead ignorance as to the scam that was being pulled with her assistance, in the end the prosecutor agreed and knocked her charges down to a misdemeanor for which she got time served and some community service. In that episode I backed Kayden’s claim that she was also a victim and I supported her and “talked her off the ledge” a few times.
This time she won’t be able to make that claim, this isn’t a sophisticated money and real estate scam, this is a pay us and we will help you find a girl who wants a sugar daddy, Sugar Daddies are certainly no strange concept to porn girls, most have them, as did Kayden, but they don’t always mean that sex for money or sex for gifts is taking place. But if you watch the ABC special on arrangementfinders called “Date A Sugar Daddy” they make it pretty apparent that sex is exactly what is expected in all but the rarest of circumstances. The parties the company throws usually end up with “sugar Daddys” pairing off with willing “Sugar Babies” in exchange for financial gain. The girls that don’t want to provide sexual favors in exchange for money go home alone.
Now personally, as a Libertarian, I have zero problem with any of this but I wouldn’t put myself out front of this company for the very reason that what I have a problem with and what is legal don’t line up. I would not want to have to try to explain to a jury of 12 ordinary people that this is not prostitution and that my company is not facilitating in this, particularly if it’s a Federal thing.
One might think that with the other prostitution sites like eros and helpubooker2 and the like that arrangementfinders would be lower on the totem pole but those sites aren’t running billboards and riling up communities across the USA so that puts a target on the company’s back….and on Kaydens.
Efforts to contact Kayden Kross and Veronica Vain for this story have gone unanswered.
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Has #KaydenKross lost her mind? [no, she lost her soul] http://t.co/Ni7AtFk7YC via @mikesouth1226 – can’t say Mike didn’t try to help her…
Is this one of the sites being marketed to college students as an alternative to poor paying part time jobs and loans with budget busting repayments?
What about the redbook plea deal convictions? Do they play into the concerns your friend was expressing?
Its a marketing and PR thing Mike. Sorry but theres no way Kayden is throwing a million dollars of her own money in this. Its likely to establish a face of the company, give them some PR, etc. Its like when Steven Hirsch offers celebs $1million to do a sex scene. He knows they’re not going to take it…but its interesting PR for people. The “president” title I would imagine is again, a PR only title. Its not like she’ll be at a desk 9am-5pm controlling daily operations of the company. Arrangement Finders needs someone pretty to put out front, its good press, and people will talk about it especially if they hear that a model in our business is putting up $1million (like ANY model in the porn business has $1million laying around to invest). She’ll do interviews, appear on TV, draw attention to the brand, do conventions, etc. That’ll be it. She likely invested no money, and is likely just being paid a salary for her participation in this. You think a company like Ashley Madison really needs money badly enough to give a significant stake to Kayden Cross? Its PR, plain and simple.
Secondly, I don’t think they’ll have any legal trouble. You would think Eros, a site openly connecting prostitutes with johns, would have legal trouble and they’re up and running just fine it seems.
I also don’t personally see anything wrong with these “sugar daddy” arrangements but do have to say that Kayden has put herself in quite a bind here. Even if Anonymouse is correct and the $1 million investment and the company presidency is all an act she is the public face of the company and as far as police and FBI agents would know (at least in the beginning) she could be the main queenpin of the company. I think at least federally this would be considered pimping at a minimum for Kayden and whomever else is running this company and prostitution on the parts of the girls and their “sugar daddies” as well as the Mann Act which regulates transporting people across state lines to pimp and prostitute (I am making the assumption that at least one of these people would have been transported across a state line for these “parties”). This would be the same in Michigan as far as state law goes (minus the Mann Act although we do have a charge for transporting a girl across county lines for purposes of prostitution which works similarly) except with the added fornication charges for both girl and “sugar daddy” which carry life without parole (the CSC 1 component) plus five years (the fornication which triggers CSC 1 charges) in the worst hellhole prisons in the country.
Mike South’s blog has confirmed that #pornstar @Kayden_Kross will be viewed as a #sextrafficking #pimp by the public http://t.co/ioZHL9T6sj
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Once a dupe, always a dupe. First for the FSC, now for this company. She should stick to real estate scams.
No idea whether the site is or isn’t a scam and, obviously, have no clue about Kayden’s finances. However, if she really did invest $1 million of her own money, she should think about two old adages:
The first is what every mainstream producer in Hollywood says every day: Never invest your own money; always use other peoples’ money.
The second is an old joke about investing: How do you end up with $1 million on Wall Street? Start with $2 million.
I hope she had that $2 million because hubby is starting to look a little pudgy and long in the tooth. I don’t imagine he has a Plan B. Meanwhile, Kayden doesn’t want to go back to performing, or end up like Jenna Jameson with her Bentley wrapped around a tree.
Its common knowledge that porn is pretty much done. Porn is now used as a gateway to escorting. The vast majority of girls in porn ALSO escort. The govt. knows this is going on and sooner or later they are going to crack down on these types of arrangements. She will be sorry she jumped into this business venture.
“snatching her out from under Evil Angel Video”? Source? Vain’s first movie is distributing through Evil Angel so that seems odd.
Why compare it to SilkRoad? It’s much closer to AshleyMadison than SilkRoad. That seems like a pretty tenuous analogy.
“but many prosecutors do not agree.” Citation? Or opinion?
So lets see ABC News did an expose 1.5 years ago and got access to things like company parties, but this is some federal bust waiting to happen? You really should connect those dots more in your article. More than anon journalist friend saying should be shown IMO.
That billboard stuff was a year+ ago as well and wasn’t taken down based on anything criminal or about prostitution. It had a message that was risque and people didn’t like it. That isn’t even close to the dots you are trying to connect here.
Honestly, I’ve gotten the vibe for a while that you are butthurt that Kayden isn’t your friend anymore. That’s too bad, but what a childish way to take it.
Yeah and he tried to analogize with SilkRoad, a site that was openly and explicitly selling and trading illegal items. It’s not the same legally at all really. This could lead to sex for goods after people meet from the site is miles from SilkRoad.
He has a college education, probably more than most performers have.
Can you legally establish a site like this as “prostitution”? Explain how. Is the site responsible for what happens after the people meet?
I find it odd that Arrangement Finders would promise to pay veronica Vain “six-figures”.
A college education yes. A resume, no. Tom Byron has a college education. Look where it got him. He has cachet in the industry as long as he can perform – even as a director he’s a performer director. Outside the industry, he’s qualified to be an Uber driver – and they make about $12 an hour.
I find it extremely unlikely anything will come from this… I barely even see arrangementfinders anywhere, while seeking arrangement is so obviously paying to be featured on certain shows, from Dr. Phil all the way up to Lisa Ling on CNN (that blew my mind). If there was any chance the feds would actually make a move there is no way they would be throwing the money into this that they have been.
They are careful to make sure everyone says they “don’t sleep with the sugar daddies” except for “very special circumstances”.
It’s also the fact that I think for it to be illegal for the site you would have to prove more than just that the people who met for ‘sugar daddies’ then had sex with them. The site can’t be culpable for what happens after the people meet. I think to be illegal it would have to be proven that they explicitly knew/promoted that behavior.
That site is nothing more than a hooking site.