5 Reasons Why I Am in the Adult Industry
The incongruency of growing up in the southeastern region of the US and working in the adult entertainment industry for the past 9 years has obviously cooked up a heaping serving of negative judgement and just plain confusion amongst my family, friends, the families of friends and everyone who ever knew me when I was a sweet little girl and “what happened?”. I’m not going to pretend that I’m some kind of unique case; TONS of people who work in the adult industry come from the south and small towns. I come from the rather large city of Atlanta, which is kind of the liberal island in the middle of the south, so this isn’t the story you think it is. Rather, I’m seeking to clear up some confusion, because I do believe that MUCH of the negativity stems from a massive amount of ignorance on so many levels (and please understand that the word “ignorance” has taken on a negative connotation for some reason, but really it just means “a lack of knowledge”). So here it is, Cracked-style, 5 reasons I am in the adult industry.
1. Working for myself.
Yes, I perhaps could have opened up my own flower service. Or become a professional panhandler. Either way, for as long as I can remember, I’ve wanted to work for myself. I NEVER considered that this would mean becoming a model or a pornstar or a video producer, but I was always interested in acting and videography and people always told me that I was pretty, so when I was floating through college with no major and delivering pizzas and a very intelligent friend put the idea in my head about a sector of the adult industry that he thought would be a good fit for me, after much consideration, I made the decision to go for it. It sounded like fun and maybe I could make enough money to stop punching in hours for another company and earn it as a direct result of something I created. If someone had suggested the flower thing to me and I had felt that it would be lucrative, I might have gone with that.
2. Relatively low barriers to entry. But not in the way you think.
A common misconception is that it’s EASY to be successful in the adult entertainment industry. If you’re a hot girl and willing, you’ll have no problem becoming a millionaire. Maybe in 1965. In 2015, the adult industry is much how I imagine the mainstream entertainment industry USED to be. There are THOUSANDS of beautiful, willing models and HUNDREDS of legit video production companies. On top of that, most consumers of the material have never even CONSIDERED actually paying for it because it’s free all over the internet. So producers try shooting niches. However, now the niches have subniches that the general population wouldn’t even recognize as pornographic material. These random videos of girls freaking out aloud about a magical spell turning them into a cow or getting their feet stuck in a pool of melted jellybeans aren’t available for free and therefore still sell among a targeted audience.
The point I’m trying to make is that it’s hard out here for a pimp. BUT if you are pretty AND have a brain, you’re not going to be letting an actual pimp run your shit and take all your money and steer you in terrible directions. SO the barriers to entry into the adult industry are actually NOT as difficult as alot of other industries IF you know what you’re doing. I learned and am still learning along the way.
3. Freedom from the 9-5.
As with most self-employed persons, I don’t have to be at a certain location at a certain time 5 days a week. I do so many different things, so I can be working on my computer at 3am or shooting at 9pm. For the most part, I make my OWN schedule. This allows me the freedom to live wherever I want, travel whenever I want or even travel 24/7 and live in a van, which is what I’ve been doing since last year. That being said, living in places where most porn is being shot like Los Angeles, Las Vegas and Florida is a GOOD idea, but certainly not a necessity. I visit these places often (whether I like it or not :P) do some work and then drive off to wherever the fuck I want. And I can still do more work on my laptop if I want. I’ll explain all the different kinds of work I do in the next paragraph…
4. Variety of work.
I’m not just fucking people for money. Here is a list of ALL the different things I do and what many models HAVE to do these days in order to make enough money to live off of and not have to get a side job at Dennys. Personally, it’s nice to not do the same thing all the time.
-Shooting videos for my own company. This consists of hiring models (or modeling myself), having good equipment and knowing how to use it, finding locations, knowing what to shoot and how to shoot it.
-Editing and posting my videos online. Post-production, which can be done anywhere (except next to an old lady at Starbucks).
-Shooting custom videos. Customers/fans will order a SPECIFIC video they want produced (the model, the scenario, the fetishes performed) and pay a pretty penny for them. Sometimes they are easy, sometimes they are 50 pages long and detailed and English is not their first language.
– Shooting videos for OTHER companies. This may involve that sex part that got you all hot and bothered but it may also involve non-sex, softcore fetish work.
– Phone Sex. I am signed up under 3 different companies so that I may receive calls on a per minute basis from fans who want to talk about their fetishes or their favorite color or anything else in between.
– Cam Shows. I never got HUGE into this sector, but I do accept private video shows from fans who ask and prepay via my own payment processor.
-Sessions. I do in-person NON-NUDE sessions that involve fetish or wrestling acts; usually it consists of me tying someone down and tickling them or them licking my feet for an hour.
-Social Networking. It is essential to spend time on Twitter/Facebook/Instagram in order to connect with fans and market yourself. Obviously no one is getting paid for these efforts, it’s just something you do.
-DVDs. Lately I have been turning all my clips into actual full-length DVD movies, so I’ve had to have covers made and have been re-rendering and encoding my files for DVD.
-Uploading videos. I feel like this is what I spend most of my time doing. And since I am on the road, it isn’t as easy as someone who lives in a house with a constant internet connection.
Am I boring you yet? Good. Maybe now you understand that the having sex with strangers part of my job is just that, a PART. And in my case, it wasn’t even a part of my job until a few years ago. Which brings me to the final reason I am in the adult industry
5.The Sex Part.
I think everyone can agree that sex is fun. For me, sex is USUALLY something that I only want to share with the person I am with. Which is why I’m lucky that my boyfriend is also a porn performer and I’ve been able to shoot with him for a large number of my scenes. But yes, it’s fun to perform with other people sometimes, as well. That being said, I am actually NOT an exhibitionist; I don’t crave attention, but I have always enjoyed performing. Sex (at least good sex) feels artistic to me and I strive to let that come across on film. What it doesn’t feel like is REAL sex, whether it’s with my boyfriend or not. And that’s because it’s NOT! PORN is usually male-centric, brightly lit sex at 9 in the morning where you have to wear HUGE fake eyelashes and hold your butt cheeks up and out of the way. There is very little, if any, kissing and oral on the girl is often not even a part of it. And then they pour white creamy face wash on your face and take pictures. Ta da! It’s a JOB and not a bad one; $1000 for a few hours of work. And in case you didn’t know, we get STD tested for EVERYTHING every TWO weeks now for a whopping $150-200/pop and yes, we have to pay for it ourselves.
So there you have it. Like any job, there are positives and negatives. And as with any job of self-employment, you have to think of your future because nobody is putting anything into a 401K for you or providing you with health insurance, so those things ARE your own responsibility. However, my roles in the adult industry suit the lifestyle I want to live and I am grateful to have discovered this unique world.
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Addie Juniper Tells Us Why She Got Into Porn http://t.co/ZjjEbhUhC2
Very good summation
Great article except for one GLARING error. You DO NOT get teste for everything,,,the industry Harm Reduction Program, which I assisted AIM in actually putting down on paper, does not include oral or anal testing for the gonnorhea and chlamydia.
Addie, did you know that your g/c test will NOT detect either of these diseased in your throat or anus? Have you seen the studies done with porn stars that show how many std’s are missed because they dont test oral or anal sites. You do not even come close to testing for EVERYHTING(your emphasis)…and as I said, I helped write the protocols the industry stands by,,,I personally oversaw tens of thousands of performer tests,,,,Addie, do you have the slightest clue as to the rates of these std’s in your own industry, and do you ever wonder why AIM, or the current regime has NEVER , not one single time, released actual statistics of its own testing program? I will tell you why, it is appaling, frightening, and disgusting all at the same time. You test for EVERYTHING, that is a delusional statement. Perhaps not delusional, but surely misinformed. ONLY IN PORN
LOL!!! this is nothing more than a propaganda piece. This post is so bad.. I stopped reading it after the first paragraph because it was insulting my intelligence… and I skimmed through the rest.
now this girl who wrote this either KNOWS she is lying or she IS delusional and actually believes what she is saying to be true.
“If you repeat a lie often enough, people will believe it, and you will even come to believe it yourself” Joseph Goebbels
As usual I don’t agree, Common. From what she has written I think Addie sounds intelligent and has her head screwed on reasonably straight which I cannot say about everyone in this industry. Don’t knock her for not knowing that VD testing can be done in all of the pussy, ass and mouth (actually they can test for herpes in the eye as well) — they don’t usually teach that in school and most doctors don’t think to test there unless requested to or if symptoms are coming from those areas.
Also, according to IAFD she is also known as Mistress Addie which means she is into BDSM. There is a lot that can be done in that genre without penetration or even oral sex. Caning, whipping, bondage, kidnapping/cop and perp play, tease and denial, foot play, verbal domination — the list and combinations are just about endless and almost none of it requires penetration. The chance of getting VD from tying hands and caning asses is almost nil if there isn’t penetration involved. I myself get the biggest turn-on watching a cute chick struggling against a pair of handcuffs (from behind), tied or even hogtied — add a kidnap element (or a cop arresting a cute perp) and maybe a leather jacket on the tied-up submissive and my dick is in hog heaven. There isn’t any sex involved in that fantasy (although if I am acting it out with a cute consenting chickie at home I can easily add sex to the mix).
I am not familiar with Addie’s work but if she actually wrote this article herself she should do just fine. She doesn’t sound like a train-wreck waiting to happen like Jenna Jameson or Lindsay Lohan (I know, she hasn’t done porn — yet).
RT @MikeSouth1226: Addie Juniper Tells Us Why She Got Into Porn: 5 Reasons Why I Am in the Adult Industry
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RT @MikeSouth1226: Addie Juniper Tells Us Why She Got Into Porn: 5 Reasons Why I Am in the Adult Industry
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Jilted what your saying is so true, but I bet you didn’t know that CET and Dr. Miao wanted to start testing for throat and anus g/c, heard that from one of the board members on the FSC, but the kicker is, they were going to give out Q-tips and have us swab our own throat and anus area then put it in the urine. How is that possible? Like you said only in PORN!
Jilted what your saying is so true, but I bet you didn’t know that CET and Dr. Miao wanted to start testing for throat and anus g/c, heard that from one of the board members on the FSC, but the kicker is, they were going to give out Q-tips and have us swab our own throat and anus area then put it in the urine. When I was told that I didn’t quite understand the reasoning of mixing everything together. Perhaps you can give us some insight to this, after all it is the FSC and CET who seem to make all the decisions for the industry.
Oops I thought it didn’t post so I tried to remember what i said to jilted… My bad
I wrote about this several months ago if I am not mistaken,,,JW, alot more coming on CET very soon, DId you ever test there? Get copies of every test you ever had done there, quick, reallyquick, before they pull and AIM and everything vanishes into thin air, or a West Coast and they catch on fire. Do you have a lawyer, a good class action lawyer,,,dont worry, got ya covered. Karma is a bitch, and she has a law degree.
jw, do you go to the Comedy show,,I mean APAC meetings?
jw, did you know that it is illegal for a private physician to charge YOU more for lab work than he pays the lab. If the physician collects payment at time of sevice on behalf of the laboratory performing the test, he cannot make a profit off the tests,,,,He can charge you for an office visit, but you have to be seen by someone with a certain level(not quite sure what that is these days) most likely a PA(Physicians assistance), and you must be billed seperately for the visit and the lab tests. AIM got away with itpartly because they were a non profit, but mostly because I didnt care becuase they were paying the bills on time. Then they ripped me off for, well actually ripped performers off for $650,000,oo. Lets just leave it right here for now or better yet leave it in a luxury suite in Beliz with the rest of you and other performers money. If you, or anyone else wants to chat about this shoot me an email,,,,[email protected] What makes me think Addie here is completely clueless about all of this? ONLY IN PORN
RT @MikeSouth1226: Addie Juniper Tells Us Why She Got Into Porn: 5 Reasons Why I Am in the Adult Industry
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I never want to come off as a hater, sound superior (well, OK, sometimes) or belittle performers, but, when I read in the post my first thought was: Who the hell is Addie Juniper.
When I read that she lives in her van, I thought: Well, this is good. She’s preparing herself for a life after porn. At some point, she’ll be too old to perform, she’ll lose interest, or the porn viewing public will lose interest in her – all of which happens to every performer, including Jenna Jameson.
The last thought, which I find most interesting or disturbing, is this trend among the really young and seemingly bright performers, like Belle Knox, to delude themselves into thinking that doing porn is empowering them as entrepreneurs and women. It all sounds great late at night in a dorm after a few too many beers, but, it just isn’t the real world.
You just hope these gals, who seem bright and articulate, are bright enough to sock away every dime possible because they’re going to need when their porn careers are over – which, if history is any indication, will be sooner than they think in the scheme of things.
BT, I can’t say for sure as I am not that familiar with Addie either but I think she meant she lives in a Class B motorhome, they are built to look like a van with a raised ceiling and have a shower, toilet and (small) kitchen along with a small couch that converts into a bed, an electric generator and means to store grey water and sewage until it can be dumped at an RV shop. I doubt she is living in a Dodge Caravan or similar vehicle. Assuming that is the case, with the travel required for porn nowadays with some scenes in the LA area, others in San Francisco (especially for a BDSM performer like Addie), Florida, Vegas or Phoenix living in a motorhome can actually save on airfare and hotel bills, the biggest disadvantage for her is there isn’t enough room to swing a cane or whip when her BF or fuck of the night wants it. A Class B motorhome doesn’t use much more gas than a full-size truck or normal van so that bill isn’t ridiculous like it would be with a larger traditional Class A or C motorhome (I used to own a Class A, I got about seven miles to the gallon, at $1.00 a gallon a fill-up was well over $100, with gas prices now it would closer to $250-$275. She can also rent a pad at a motorhome park whenever and whereever she needs it at $20-$30 a night and not pay $2000 plus a month for an apartment that she will only sleep in a few days a month anyway plus $100 a night for a hotel room when she isn’t in LA or SF.
Jilted, that is definitely NOT an acceptable sample. IMO (and I may be talking out my ass here but I haven’t let that stop me before so why should it now) the tests need to be performed separately so it is possible to know which orifice is infected with a VD. I don’t even know if dipping anal and mouth samples in urine would contaminate it enough to register a result even if there were an infection there, the volume of urine could dilute the VD off of the mouth and ass samples enough where it would not be concentrated enough to register. Even if it did, the amount probably could not be verified to find out how far along the VD infection is, complicating attempts to ascertain how long the VD has been active in a person’s body (that may only be important with HIV — I don’t know but I do know Sharon Mitchell claimed to be able to roughly estimate how long someone had been infected by their blood count).
Speaking of “Dr.” Mitch, I wonder how she is doing nowadays without a job and likely having to sponge off of her husband. The only real skill she has now is phlebotomy (I don’t think she could even do MILF scenes at her age) and that pays $15 an hour maximum (about $30K annually), far from the $90K she made at AIM.
Ya know what this woman who wrote this propaganda piece reminds me of? The little girl who grew up so now the child molester is tired of her/ doesn’t want her anymore so he sends her out to lure fresh new victims to the van.
This woman and most other women and men in this industry don’t give two shits about anyone or anything. they don’t care whose life they ruin with their bullshit and lies. They don’t care PERIOD.
The ONLY goal the performers etc. have in writing propaganda pieces like this is in the hopes of recruiting more mentally unstable girls who aren’t thinking clearly and have no clue what this industry is really like and how once entered it will ruin your life.. into it.
unfortunately for these propaganda makers, the age of the internet and instant communication has made propaganda more difficult to create. 🙂
Van. Class B Motor home. Underneath a pickup truck camper. Whatever. It doesn’t really change my view about this notion by 20-year-old porn chicks who say, what I do is great because I’m an entrepreneur. There’s no difference between me spreading my legs for money or my college roommate who opened her own boutique. We’re working for ourselves rather than the man.
Again mharris speaks from the backside,,,,everything you just made up oout of thin air about Mitch is laughable. And sponge off her husband, she doesnt have to sponge, his sponge was so soaked with cash it just dripped off all ove the place. The last I actually heard she was chillin in their pad in hills above Santa Cruz on the deck buillt under the thousand year old redwoods on their property.
I hope for Sharon’s sake you are correct, Jilted. Even Mike South (whom we can likely both agree knows more than I or probably many people in the industry today ever will about porn and the people in it short of talking my way into a $300K plus a year job directing Sex and Submission for Peter Acworth) has said as far as legitimate education she only has a GED (and maybe a phlebotomy certificate). As smart as she is supposed to be I know as an accounting person familiar with how to run a business (which I know far more about than porn chickies or VD testing) I was much less than impressed at how she ran AIM, you can say all you want that there was a board of directors but unless they met every day or there was a hidden person that actually held the power there Sharon made most of the day to day decisions for AIM. I can also say with certainty that if I would have been the CEO at AIM your $650K would not have come up missing (let’s actually call it $671K, several sources reported that your employer was ordered to repay $21K of “preferential payments” it received from AIM in its last days). Back to Sharon’s current situation, I know that most people cannot make $90K a year with only a GED unless they are selling huge amounts of meth/heroin/cocaine, a hitman for the mafia/cartel or young enough/cute enough to fuck for a living. I hope that rich husband of hers enjoys supporting her and gets a lot of pussy and blow jobs for doing so.
As for my first paragraph about testing and why combining three different samples from three (very) different parts of the body to diagnose VD, how close am I?
keep shoveling mharris,,,,it gets funnier by the word.,,,without going into how virtually every single sentence in this post MUST have been pulled directly out of your ass,,,,Mitch was often a guest lecturer, and at times a full time,’substitute’ for several professors at UCLA an USC here in So. Cal, and at UC Santa Cruz, where my nephew use to just sit in on the classes she was doing at times. And its not a fortune, but her going price on the lecture circuit isnt the highest, but certainly not the lowest,
Regarding the repayment on the AIM(non profiit) When a business files a bankruptcy, every single payment made to anybody in the last ninety days is scrutinized,,,the final miniscule payments made in the final days of AIM were nothing more than last ditch efforts to stay open,,,as they were well aware that the axe was coming soon from the lab. WIthout those last ditch effort final payments the closing would have come about 2 months sooner, but it was comming/
EVERY SINGLE thing you have written here comes straight out of your ass,,,how on earth do you get your fat ass cheeks to hit the individual letters on the keybord,,,EVERY SINGLE WORD,,,you are a GREAT fiction writer.
NOT EVEN CLOSE on the std,,,,it does not matter which anatomical location the disease is from,,,,,the swab samples submitted do not even “Require” the source of the swab to be identified,,,,again you are 100% wrong,,,and the treatment, regardless of the anatomical site is exactly the same,,,,
Every single thing, even Mitch’s education level, again, pulled so far from out of your ass it probably was backed up all the way to your large intestine, is pure baloney with a ton of speculation spread on top, LOL,,,I only have high school diploma, worked in the lab industry with virtually no formal schooling, and was making pretty decent bank, over six figures a year. Ever see those cute pharmacuticl reps in your docs office,,,you dont even need a high scholl diploma to do that, just the proper in house training and read the brochures,,,there was always what we called ‘war time’ the battle between “Pharmer” reps and lab reps for facetime with the doctors. PS, I never sold meth.
And for the record,,,you have NO IDEA whatsoever how AIM was run because all you think you know is what you have read on porn sites. Great sources.
You always write these things as if you were there, as if you have these connections and inside information,,,,you write stuff like,,,”I dont know xxxxx in person, but,,,,,” as if there are people in the biz you do know,,,,,,,ALL of your info comes from porn blogs,,,,,give it the fuck up, you fool no one.,,,,,and MOST people in the US,,,education level or not, make dont 90 grand,,
and regarding the amount,,,my 650 figure is not all about the lab bill,,,as you can see, there were several lab entities listed,,,,YOU HAVE NO CLUE on earht which of those are ‘mine’ and where the other money that makes the 650 comes from,,,,why do I know for a fact that you have NO CLUE,,,because I have never written it here,,,your only source for this information,
You are a tool, a fool, and full of stool.
Well Jilted you asked me if I ever went to CET the answer is yes, but since they no longer have the same staff I’ve changed to TTS. CET seems to focus on Dr Maio but does he really exist? No one has ever seen him. My girl wanted to make a appointment with him for birth control and was told he doesn’t see patients. What kind of Dr doesn’t see patients? He must exist though, isn’t he the same Dr Maio who wants to give out Q tip swabs for us to collect our own throat and anal swabs for our g/c’s? Here’s something else call it strange but I have never heard of a Dr’s office giving out discount coupons to use them. No thanks I really don’t find it comforting to save a few cents on my health. Jilted you also brought up that Tony T is part owner of CET wouldn’t that be considered a conflict of interest? If this is true I would of never used them, why in the hell would anyone want to put money in his pocket! I really hope your right about Karma being a bitch Tony T deserves everything he’s ever dished out to anyone, and then some. No one ever deserves to be treated the way he treats people on his set, no one, little lone a medical clinic.
jw, good move going to TTS, for reasons that you havent a clue,,but I am not making fun of you, fact is no performers have a clue why TTS is the better choice,,,they will soon, but they dont now. The legal system, in this type of case moves slower than government.
Regarding Tony T,(thats NOT tony tedeshi,,i know you know this jw but others may not) you hurt my feelings (jk) Why did you say, “It this is true” and ‘I hope youre right’ Oh its true, its dam true(liitle old WWE reference there) JW, honestly, when it comes to these issues regaring the testing when have I ever been wrong? The Qtips,,lets just call them the Qtips of the iceburg.
‘Since they no longer have the same staff’ Dr, Miao does exist. JW, I wil say to you again, go to CET an get copies of every test you EVER had done there, and copies of everysingle release form, every document in your medical file, actually, ask for a copy of your entire medical file, sooon, like Monday morning at 8’00. And every APHSS/Pass release form. They might not be able to get it instantly but do not let them stonewall you. READ this link. There is alot of good informaion,,,you WILL want to have those records,guaranteed, have I ever lied to you? In as short at two months as long as 5 or 6 you , and many others will be getting VERY PISSED OFF.
http://www.mbc.ca.gov/Consumers/Complaints/Complaints_FAQ/Medical_Records_FAQ.aspx Tell your friends,,,conflict of inerest,,,that my friend is the least of my worries, and maybe, depends on a few factors. Certainly it is what is commonly called, the ‘appearnce’ of a conflict of interest, and doctors, like lawyers, are supposed to try to avoid that. Things that make ya go hmmmm. You came close here JW, leads me to think you know something that youre not telling telling and youre testing me. If thats so then you got your answer here, as you can see,,,if not, stay tuned,,,,but me thinks you know something jw.
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jw,,,let me clarigy something, I wanted to edit the above post but ran out of time. After I started writing the above post and looked at the psts you sent me…I said you havent a clue of whats coming, but when I lookded at someting you wrote I thought,,,Holy shit, maybe he does know, or he was just looking for some confirmation on a certain suspicion he might have. Then I thought,,jw aint been around for a while and i thought maybe you were fishing for a little info from me. If you have the suspicion your post lead me to believe you have, then you have already got all your records, if not, get there Monday and request the COPIES,,,they are not obligated to give you the originals, get copies of you entire record. PUT YOUR REQUEST IN WRITING, and say you want a copy of EVERY SINGLE PEICE OF PAPER IN YOUR FILE,,including the PASS and APHSS release forms!!!!!!!!!!
DO you go to the APAC meetings,,,go to the next one and tell every single performer to do the same thing, that is IF THEY WILL LET YOU.
take care jw,,,its been a while, hope all is well for you.
Jilted, if I am a tool I want to be a sledgehammer so I can beat the skull of whomever stole that money from AIM as well as Izzy Hall and Michael Weinstein. As for this blog being the only source of info for me regarding porn, that isn’t true but Mike South is probably the most trustworthy of them. If I am a fool than I want to be the Joker in the next Batman parody movie Axel Braun directs (I will even wear a condom for his movie when I am fucking Catwoman played by Casey Calvert or Aaliyah Love). As for the last line of your attempted insult I may be full of stool right now but I won’t be when I take a healthy shit tonight.
As for if I don’t know _____, that is important because others reading may not know me and may think I do know that person. I have actually had that happen more than once. You may not like me but really in the end we are both on the same side in this, we both want a vibrant adult film industry that doesn’t fuck over performers, allows them to be relatively safe and still make a decent living. We just disagree on how to do that with me more favoring the ability for performers and producers to both make a good living and you pushing absolute safety even if in the end it hurts performers and producers (although I don’t believe you wish to purposely hurt them), IMO at the detriment of the industry’s ability to function and be profitable. Both are actually fair arguments. For the sake of civility since I don’t call you a tool or a fool (as I actually think you do give a shit unlike Weinstein, Hall, Dines and Lubben and you don’t beat your wife in anger more than one night a month and present yourself as God’s gift to the industry the next day — we all know who I am referring to, I am sure), please show me the same courtesy. Save the namecalling for those that actually deserve it such as Weinstein, Hall, Lubben, Dr. Flip Flop, Clover, War Machine, Donkey and those like them.
We’ll go Tuesday and get copies of our file’s to be on the safe side, it would be Monday but were filming. So Jilted stop beating around the bush, what are you not telling all of us? We have the right to know if its something that will help the performers then please tell us. Also can you please tell me how I came close to figuring out whats going on because believe it or not I’m not testing you and I have no idea whats going on. As for APAC we do go to the meetings mostly for the donuts and make contacts with old friends. So as for now I guess that’s about it, looking forward to your next post.