For those that don’t remember, Extreme Associates was The Kazoo’s company that specialized in abusing females, making them drink vomit, enema excrement, urine and such his antics rightly landed him and his wife in a Federal Penitentiary, It would appear that Treasure Island Media is following suit.
What makes this relevant is that a lot of these guys (not the amateur submitting) are performing in straight porn, with the help of caverject and other such drugs.
If THE FSC were smart (ya right) they’d take a stand…..
A Reader sends this:
From http://str8upgayporn.com/got-meth-treasure-island-media-hosts-illegal-slamming-videos/
Controversial bareback studio Treasure Island Media recently launched their own tube site, ToxxxicTube, where they’ve uploaded hundreds of extended video clips taken from their films. It’s the same garbage you get when you buy a membership to one of their sites, only free. What a bargain. In addition to the “professional” clips (and I use that term looser than a Treasure Island Media bottom), the site hosts dozens of videos from community members engaging in what appears to be illegal drug use.
There’s one from user “armchairPNP,” in which a masked man sticks a syringe in his arm and injects himself with what is presumably meth, or heroin. There are lots of others
There probably aren’t any legal ramifications for the amateur men who submitted these videos (authorities aren’t going to go around looking for someone who may have done drugs one time in an undated video), but the consequences for Treasure Island Media—the company making a profit off of the publication and hosting of these videos—could be quite dire, and not just because of the illegal drug use. As part of U.S. 2257 requirements, content producers are required to keep records identifying the ages and names of the performers in their movies. So, is a tube site like TIM’s ToxxxicTube required to provide 2257 docs on its community members who upload videos of themselves doing illegal drugs?
There’s a 2257 notice on Treasure Island’s ToxxxicTube site:
18 U.S.C. 2257 Record-Keeping Requirements Compliance Statement All performers in each video and graphical image on this website depicting activity governed by 18 U.S.C. 2257 were over the age of 18 as of the date(s) of production. The records required by Section 2257 with respect to such films and images on this website are kept by the Custodian of Records, Paul Morris, Principal, at the offices of the producer, TIM Global., 2261-R Market St #435, San Francisco, CA 94114.
So, do you think sdprtypal and armchairpnp sent in copies of their drivers licenses and birth certificates to Treasure Island Media before they uploaded home movies of themselves shooting meth?
Amateur or not, the men in Treasure Island Media’s slamming videos are still performers from whom Treasure Island Media is profiting. As it states below each clip on the tube site: “Sponsored Video From Treasure Island Media” (which links to the TIM paysite). The men in these videos are performing on a Treasure Island Media site that exists solely to increase Treasure Island Media membership sales and market the Treasure Island Media brand. So, if the feds showed up on Market Street today looking for the 2257 docs on Hairy Chempig Slamming, what would Treasure Island Media say? What would TIM owner Paul Morris say? What would TIM’s defenders at the Free Speech Coalition say?
What does anyone who does business with or works in any capacity for Treasure Island Media have to say for themselves?
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I’m so glad I worked in the “Golden Era” this shit is whack.
i cant even watch any of it. not only is it completely disgusting, but i can’t stand looking at messy bedrooms.
Can anyone name these guys? The guys that performed in the gay films and use caverject?
Out them? What do you have to lose?
The only performer I know of who has shot straight porn and done scenes for Treasure Island Media would be “Rod Spunkel”, who also goes by the name “Gordon” and was the original “WhiteZilla”. I think he only did three scenes with them though, and he only got a blowjob in all three. Are there any others?
Mike, if there are people working for Treasure Island and also doing straight porn then YOU NEED TO OUT THEM. If you aren’t then you are doing a great disservice to anyone who performs in adult films. From what I have seen Treasure Island is scum, but the guys working for Treasure Island are most-likely HIV positive along with all of the fixings like a Subway sandwich. If you head to adultdvdmarketplace.com you’ll see that anyone who had a name for themselves and works for Treasure Island in a recent film hasn’t worked in a mainstream gay studio for a while. One can assume it is because they became positive for HIV making a job at Treasure Island ideal.
If you actually know of someone then state it. Someone could be getting HIV because you aren’t spilling the beans. Inform people of this!
Extreme Associates was obviously fake. In fact, Treasure Island isn’t trying to be Extreme Associates at all. Treasure Island beat Extreme when it comes to being extreme. AVN ran a story about the AHF busting them so I asked a friend who knows of their films. He showed me parts of two of the films in question and it was shocking to say the least.
One of the films consisted of using turkey baster to inject the semen of hundreds of guys into the asshole of someone and using it as lube. It was fake, but the bare sex with many partners wasn’t. Recently you posted a story about a jar filled with HIV-positive semen and that could be true, but HIV cannot survive in air for more than 30 seconds at most. The conditions required to keep it alive long enough to infect someone isn’t something a porn studio has the capability of doing. Both films were obviously playing to fantasy. You may want to check Combat Zone out because I heard they have films where girls screw their step dads.
That’s scary. Porn girls screwing their stepfathers?
What’s next? Guys screwing their stepmoms?
I just did an internet search and saw that such films are happening. That’s degrading. I feel bad for those involved.
The other film the AHF didn’t like consisted of guys supposedly injecting drugs with the same needle and then having sex. There were cuts in the shot. On the DVD I saw it did not show needles going into arms. It just showed needles and inferred the actions. I’m unaware of online-only content showing the scenes in their entirety. They may exist.
However, that activity at times can be part of their culture due to bias and stigmas they face and fantasies that result from it. Someone doesn’t work for Treasure Island thinking that they will be safe. In fact, you could assume that they didn’t think it would be safe. You could also assume that they are swimming with diseases so they aren’t getting something they do not already have.
The ads on your site contain images of naked breasts, some wangs, and vaginas (Clips4sale). I can’t find a 2257 link with your address in it where you hold said records. Did I miss it? Where is that information?
“What makes this relevant is that a lot of these guys are performing in straight porn.” That’s just not true, actually. Many of the actors at TIM are blacklisted from the civilized side of the gay porn industry let alone the straight one.
That’s why OSHA in California wants condoms on those type of people.
I thought you couldn’t shoot porn if somebody was under the influence? isn’t that Federal?
technically thats a civil thing its a legal concept called diminished capacity and it voids a model release..in the case of these user submitted videos who would be the civil party that sues?
Treasure Island supposedly shoots overseas a lot. There is no jurisdiction over that.
Also, that’s a porn company with a pass. They’re most-likely all diseased. Why prevent?
Apparently, that’s the business model the straight biz is going for from what I have seen. It would make things easier like Treasure Island has it.
believe me if and when I know who they are I will out them
They (TIM) will say they are not a porn company as much as a documentary site that film people.
TIM “actors” would not be working in the straight side, they are actually gay out, and often have tattoos saying they belong to TMI as well as if they poz or not. Don’t confuse gay porn side with TIM movies.
This is a very strange group happening.
Is TMI a club or a business? Are these performers currently sporting a biohazard & soon to be wearing tattoos branded chattel?
Lol about documentary, they have less freedom than porn with the expectation that anything questionable or crossing the line can be edited out. Been a while since broke back mountain, still don’t see them getting away with ten movies of the week glorifying the gay sub-culture of assuming everyone is HIV + and choosing bareback anyway.
My understanding is that as long as there isn’t any sexual content in these drug slamming videos section 2257 does not apply.
As for Treasure Island Media I think their owners need to be bitch slapped by a federal or state prosecutor for spreading HIV, in many states including California it is illegal to have sex with someone without telling your partner about it if you are HIV positive, you can bet the house not all of these HIV positive guys are telling their screen partners about their infections even at TIM. It is probably assumed that everyone knows what is going on but that is a dangerous assumption to make for them, especially involving new performers to the company. Even if everyone knows the HIV status of everyone else involved if someone does get HIV from one of these shoots with California workman’s comp law as loose as it is TIM could be liable for several hundred thousand dollars plus whatever the cost of lifetime treatment is which could easily be in the millions of dollars (I doubt they have workman’s comp insurance as even State Fund would not likely insure their brand of “entertainment”). If they are filming in Nevada or Florida prostitution and pandering law could also factor in here. I am not very familiar with their workman’s comp law but I do know Florida has a workman’s comp statute requiring insurance which TIM probably can’t get so an HIV infection on set there would also likely cost them millions.
As for any overseas shoots US workman’s comp law would not likely apply but that would not shield them from liability in whatever country scum like them would shoot in. Pandering and prostitution law there could be strict possibly including the death penalty for company owners and scene participants, without knowing what countries they film in I cannot speculate further.
@mharris
Proving HIV transmission is tough. Look at straight porn. Slapping them with a federal case for spreading HIV? Are you serious? If you can do that for TIM then why doesn’t Kink.com have to worry about that? People who may contract HIV on a TIM shoot aren’t complaining about it like straight performers do. Ask yourself why that may be the case.
I would bet that people don’t contract HIV on a TIM set. You are working for them because you didn’t use a condom. Paul Morris doesn’t have to worry about people getting HPV, HSV-2, or HIV. They already have it. Busting TIM is pointless aside from getting funds from fines. Wouldn’t it be funny if they had to provide tests once a month showing that they were HIV positive? Would the AHF pay for that? TIM are people living out a death sentence in the manner that they prefer the most. One doesn’t work for TIM and then bang someone in straight shoots. I would like to see the evidence of that.
Cameron Bay and Rod Daily were shocked and upset when they got HIV after working for Kink. HIV transmission among unprotected males is highly common. Why is the risk of this company a shock? It seems like TIM is being used to cover up for the poor safety measures enacted by the straight industry. What TIM does is totally unrelated to what the straight industry does. That is like complaining about fast-food hamburgers and throwing Del Taco into the mix.
Straight porn has an illusion of safety as do mainstream gay porn companies. At least TIM isn’t lying about it.
The hamburger joint and the taco stand are still under the same regulations. Their is no distinction between the gay and straight industry as far as the law is concerned.
In one of my first conversations with Brian Chase i asked why AHF wasnt simply using the out of control HIV situaltion in the gay industry to get legislation passed. And if they had played their cards right from the beginning the AHF probably could have gotten a few of the gay companies to sign on with them. But TIM is doing for AHF what no one has done before. By openly admitting to using HiV positive performers how coould you not require protection?
@Rawalex, agree with your ‘intent’ being a key point in the prostitution vs. legal porn
I love the thought of having Christainxxx and Derrick Pierce fucking me up the ass like in a DP. That would be my fantasy. I could care less about HIV.
If every person on a TIM gay 50 man cumfest set were HIV positive I would not have a problem with what they are doing. Unfortunately that isn’t the case, these known HIV positive performers are fucking HIV negative performers up the ass on TIM sets and cumming deep inside (the HIV negative performers at TIM are dumb as a whole semi truck full of hammers but they are still negative at least before their scene). At Kink performers (on the straight side of the biz) are required to prove HIV negative status before shooting. No one is getting HIV from a straight Kink set.
For the record most of Kink’s gay performers also perform on the straight side so they are mostly tested every 14 days and HIV negative. Maybe that is why Peter doesn’t buck convention and require testing for gay scenes, I don’t know.
As for Cameron and Rod, Rod performed in a gay scene (probably for TIM or a company like them not requiring either tests or condoms), fucked Cameron in their private lives and that is how they both got HIV. Cameron and Rod DID NOT get HIV from a Kink set. Cameron did get a popped tit implant from a Public Disgrace scene, Peter said afterwards that he has taken steps to make sure that is a one time mistake (Peter should have fucked up site director Princess Donna’s tits in a special revenge scene as a penalty — what the fuck was she thinking that day or were her drinks/drugs doing the thinking for her). If Donna lets another tit get fucked up like Cameron’s was, you can fire her and hire me as replacement director. I actually understand and will abide by the shooting rules.
@jilted
I agree that they are held to the same legal standards and they should abide by them, but let’s say they are all positive for the sake of an arguement? It is different in the manner of how diseases are viewed between gay and straight. Straight porn runs away from HIV, but TIM runs towards it. That raises questions. Can you tell two people they can’t have sex on camera because they are HIV positive, but allow two HIV negative people to shoot a scene? Can you allow a blowjob without a condom if one of the performers admits they are HIV positive? Is it legal for an infected person to continue working even if their on-screen partners are infected? I don’t see any straight studios picking up and moving production overseas. I see Treasure Island doing that and still being highly-profitable.
@Mharris
“If every person on a TIM gay 50 man cumfest set were HIV positive I would not have a problem with what they are doing. Unfortunately that isn’t the case, these known HIV positive performers are fucking HIV negative performers up the ass on TIM sets and cumming deep inside (the HIV negative performers at TIM are dumb as a whole semi truck full of hammers but they are still negative at least before their scene). At Kink performers (on the straight side of the biz) are required to prove HIV negative status before shooting. No one is getting HIV from a straight Kink set.”
Please show me the evidence of people being infected on a TIM set. I’d like to know where you got the info because I can’t find it. You can’t prove someone was infected on a TIM set just like you can’t prove Kink.com didn’t infect anyone.
I just re-read my comment, I think my outrage is at the high risk of transmitting HIV on a TIM set, not necessarily actually doing so. As for Rod Daily, we know he got HIV somewhere, if I recall several sources said he did gay scenes right before finding out he had HIV so since the straight side of the biz tests regularly (greatly reducing the chance of HIV transmission there) and the gay side does not it is pretty obvious he got HIV either from the gay side or his private life. His private life sex was with Cameron Bay. Cameron did not come up positive until after Rod did so she likely got it from him.
BTW I said Rod likely got HIV from a set for either TIM or another gay company with similar practices, not necessarily TIM. I would like to know for sure where he got it as well.
What the fuck? I suspect these posts supposedly by “Ari Bass” aren’t actually from him. Whoever these posts are from has one hell of a evil sense of humor. Funny but risky from a legal standpoint.
Ohhh Mharris127 one of out favorite poster’s on Sean and mine
blog@ TRPWL. I love the fact that you post on our blog and then over here. I love your theories and so does Sean.
If you’re ever here in Vegas look me up. I need a good anal rubbing and you sound like the man who can do it for me.
Sean’s cock is getting to small or I’m getting too gaped and need different cock.
Happy Easter, MHarris127 . I wish Mike would post more articles about the bisexuality going on in straight porn. I love watching when I’m on the set a guy pounding a woman in the ass and make believing its me.
@Mharris
“I just re-read my comment, I think my outrage is at the high risk of transmitting HIV on a TIM set, not necessarily actually doing so.”
What TIM does contains an entirely different mindset than that of the straight industry. The risk for average people to catch HIV on a TIM is different for those already on TIM sets. They have HIV so it is a free-for-all. There are no worries for them in their minds. It is like Pokemon. They gotta catch ’em all.
Complaining about TIM is useless unless they are filming in CA without condoms or other regulations required by the state. I feel a better message would be to show this as an example of what the straight industry can become if things don’t change.
“BTW I said Rod likely got HIV from a set for either TIM or another gay company with similar practices, not necessarily TIM.”
If Rod worked for TIM and the straight industry hired him then they are more reckless than the mainstream gay studios. Gay studios blacklist you if you work for TIM. (Unless of course you are another bareback-only studio.) If gay studios can do that then why can’t straight ones do so as well especially if they use their performers?
If what you say is correct about Rod possibly getting it on a TIM shoot would say a lot about Kink.com then, wouldn’t it? That would mean Kink.com is taking gay performers who perform with TIM and not testing them and just making them wear condoms for anal in gay shoots. Those performers can then crossover. That would make HIV transmission on a straight kink.com shoot very likely. The guys on TIM shoots are very unhealthy. TIM performers can have 3 or more unprotected partners in a day off camera.
If Rod got HIV on a TIM set then Kink.com has the ability to transmit HIV on their sets considering TIM performers would be dating straight performers that Kink.com uses without condoms.
Whoever is posting as Ari Bass, I hate to burst your bubble but I am straight, male and will only fuck a woman. I don’t know for sure what an anal “rubbing” is (I can probably guess but don’t feel the need) but I can say you won’t get that from me. Yes I post on both blogs from time to time and have some interesting thoughts but I am still straight and male.
I also do have to mention that the real Ari Bass may sue whoever is making these posts under his name if he sees them. An IP number is easy to get with a court order for obviously slanderous comments like these. Also, the rumors of liking strap-on sex (reported on earlier in the month) does not equate to homosexual unlike the comments under “Ari Bass” here the past couple of days.
Also, happy Easter to whoever is making the comments as well as to Mike, Ari and Sean.
For the record what I read about Rod Daily fucking for pay on a gay set did not state what company. As that is I stated it was possible it was TIM but it was just as possible it was at another gay studio such as Falcon. It isn’t Peter’s (who is straight) or even Van’s (the gay division head director) job to view every TIM video in order to blacklist their performers (in fact Peter may never have even heard of TIM before, you will have to ask him that question directly). Maybe the gay studios have the employees, the ability to watch gay videos without puking and the time to do so but the straight studios do not. I know if I was asked to watch a gay video I would puke my lunch on the lap of whatever employer asked me to do so. Kink does have a gay division (with condom use) and some of their talent also works in the straight division (Wolf Hudson is an example, he also does both gay and straight videos for other companies). None of their gay division performers that also worked in their straight division have came up positive for HIV. For the record IIRC Rod never did a video for Kink’s gay division.
@mharris,
“Kink does have a gay division(with condom use)
So which is it Harris,,,,you claim that condoms are ineffective in porn and cause rug burn and dont provide safety,,,,but its ok for kink to use guys who do gay porn because they use condoms when they perform gay scenes.
And for the record,,Daily aditted to knowingly working with up to 8 HIV+ performers(with condoms).
This is all to typical of porn apologists wanting it both ways. Kink is safe because the gay division uses condoms, but condoms on a straight set are not safe. ONLY IN PORN
I have trouble articulating my position sometimes but I think it is clear that people should be tested in porn whether it be gay or straight. I have said that numerous times over the years. I do think, however that a gay person with their vast experience with condoms (the rate of condom usage in gay society is much higher than in straight society) would be more likely to use them properly than in straight porn where many don’t know that they have to be changed religiously every 5-10 minutes and lubed up heavily to avoid breakage and having them stuck deep in a woman’s pussy requiring a visit to the ER. Yes, I know a condom stuck in a guy’s ass would also require a visit to the ER. Also, most of Kink’s gay performers also perform in straight scenes and are tested anyway. I really don’t know if condoms are safe in gay porn either (I tend to think especially without frequent testing they aren’t) but I think we both can agree that preferably gay performers would be on 14 day testing just like straight performers are. Remember, even if the gay division is nominally condom only without testing they still have to test for straight scenes and be HIV-. That is why I think Kink will be fine at least in the short term with their current policy even though I tend to disagree with it in part. If the performers are tested every 14 days anyway and are HIV- we are essentially saying we have six dicks/strap-ons in one scene and a half-dozen in the next one — the same thing IMO. I think you should forget about forcing condoms in porn and instead fight to require all porn performers (gay or straight) be tested frequently and possibly use serosorting where HIV+ performers may only work with other HIV+ performers because condoms will never work especially in the harsh straight scenes common today (I don’t honestly know how harsh gay scenes are as I can’t stand to view them).
@mharris
It would take one slip-up for Kink.com and the Rod and Cameron case shows how easily a slip-up could happen. We’ll never know if it was contracted on their set or in their private lives. We’ll never know if Rod gave it to Cameron or the other way around. They could have received it from a third or fourth party too. Bleeding penises do not help either. With that said, condoms or not it isn’t safe. TIM performers are not appearing in straight films. If they are then that isn’t the fault of TIM, but the fault of the straight companies for letting them appear.
Gay porn has two kinds of performers. Those that care about HIV and those that don’t. Those that care are going about not contracting it in a shitty fashion. They care about not getting it, but not that much. Or they are stupid. Testing and condoms are useless against stupidity.
Some of those that don’t care view appearing in a TIM film as a badge of honor. If someone doesn’t care about getting HIV on film then just think of what they are doing in their private lives. What TIM does is kept separate from “regular” gay porn. The off-screen activities of both are unknown though.
You do realize that there are male and female hookers that care about HIV and then those that don’t. It isn’t restricted to sexual orientation.
As fucked up as it may sound, the constant fear of HIV that gay people encounter has resulted in some people eroticising the idea of contracting the disease. TIM provides those people an outlet. However, others like it because it is the sex that they have. What can you do? It is no different than straight gloryhole scenes in actual jack shacks. Didn’t Cameron do one of those shoots?
Kink.com does not test their gay performers for a reason. Think of why that reason may be…
A straight male performer not doing crossover work means nothing. There is no way to tell if he hires TIM rentboys on the weekend. I mean, with the railing on internet forums towards crossover performers would you blame some for not engaging in it on film? Even if they test after every encounter it means nothing because HIV doesn’t show up right away.
Look at it this way:
Kink.com hires a straight performer to have a condomless scene in a straight shoot. He has never engaged in a gay porn shoot let alone a TIM shoot. Do you know if he had 3 guys cum in his ass the night before?
Nope.
Testing helps out a lot, but in the end it means nothing. A straight performer only doing straight scenes doesn’t mean he is safer. He could be having tons of gay sex for free off film.
If you’re going to do porn then expect to get sick. That’s just how it goes. If you are cool with that then go for it. If not, then get an actual job and don’t whine when you get something.