Comments on: The Real Public Health Hazard is Utah Governor Gary Herbert https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/the-real-public-health-hazard-is-utah-governor-gary-herbert-13318/ The institute for the advance study of insensitivity and pornography Thu, 06 Jul 2023 12:10:54 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: LurkingReader https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/the-real-public-health-hazard-is-utah-governor-gary-herbert-13318/#comment-29076 Mon, 25 Apr 2016 07:51:33 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=13318#comment-29076 In reply to mharris127.

@mharris

The point was educators are focused on what disrupts their ability to teach…leaving teenage angst of an STI aside they aren’t the same type of deterrent to achieving educators goals as ADHD. Now you know why the schools that set out to conquer the war on drugs wound up creating an epidemic of adolescent addicts. 😉

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By: mharris127 https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/the-real-public-health-hazard-is-utah-governor-gary-herbert-13318/#comment-29075 Mon, 25 Apr 2016 01:10:40 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=13318#comment-29075 In reply to LurkingReader.

I was wondering why ADHD came into the conversation. I know NYC public schools attempted to bring VD testing into their school medical clinics (I never heard whether it was successful enough to continue since testing was voluntary). I don’t think the school district was paying for the testing or other health services, I would suspect NY State Medicaid paid for it. I would have to look into it more to find other districts doing so but it has came up several times over the past 10 years or so in the media.

As for ADHD, I would be more concerned with schizophrenia (fortunately very rare until the late teens), the bipolar disorders, autism spectrum disorders, developmental disabilities and the like more than ADHD. ADHD is relatively easy to treat with either Strattera or the amphetamine based medications (most of which are time-release nowadays so dosing at school isn’t necessary), get an untreated severely autistic or bipolar I kid in class and depending on the severity you have plenty of class disruption (especially with federally mandated mainstreaming — a steaming crock of shit IMO, it doesn’t hurt them or anyone else to be in special classes if they cannot function appropriately in a mainstream class) and both are notoriously hard to treat in children, medication therapy is especially hit or miss with autism, the only medication I know of approved to treat it is Haldol and that is playing with proverbial fire due to severe side effects (look up tardive dyskinesia sometime) and if the dose is high the poor kid will be a proverbial zombie for a week. Fortunately there is off-label treatment of infantile autism with other antipsychotics that are easier to tolerate but since research wasn’t performed to justify it or determine appropriate dosing that is only advisable if a psychiatrist or MD specializing in children’s mental disorders with experience in this is doing the prescribing.

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By: LurkingReader https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/the-real-public-health-hazard-is-utah-governor-gary-herbert-13318/#comment-29074 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 20:19:40 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=13318#comment-29074 In reply to mharris127.

@mharris

The point of ADHD vs asthma ….classroom management of disruptive behavioral issues takes priority over life threatening conditions. A convenient diversion to pass the time until you tell us which states opened the door to STI testing via their educational funding umbrella.

Most people aren’t aware that there are several thousand separate school districts in the US with their own distinct policies. Districts are always choosing which basic services to cut to ensure compliance with state and federally funded mandates…good luck convincing administrators that STI testing ought to be a priority.

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By: mharris127 https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/the-real-public-health-hazard-is-utah-governor-gary-herbert-13318/#comment-29073 Sun, 24 Apr 2016 19:17:03 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=13318#comment-29073 In reply to LurkingReader.

At least where I live an asthmatic student has his parent or doctor sign a form stating the inhaler is prescribed, submits it to the school and he is allowed to carry his inhaler. Same for epi-pens. The school also keeps an epi-pen in the office in case a student that doesn’t possess one of his own has an allergic reaction. The release required from each student’s parent allows for administration in an allergic emergency. Until Obama and his friends got into the fray (at least in most school districts located in my area of the state) students could carry any prescribed medication — including OxyContin or Adderall — with a physician’s signature to that same form, no matter what age or grade the student was in — including Kindergarten.

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By: LurkingReader https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/the-real-public-health-hazard-is-utah-governor-gary-herbert-13318/#comment-29070 Sat, 23 Apr 2016 21:46:16 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=13318#comment-29070 In reply to BT.

@BT

As long as 2257 remains in place I’m not seeing how a bill against revenge porn correlates to an unfriendly business atmosphere for legit porn productions. To me this is another reason industry leaders are penny wise and pound foolish trying to overturn 2257. They come across as supportive of kiddie & revenge porn and against the right of recourse for those exploited. That creates an unfriendly business atmosphere for legit porn productions.

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By: LurkingReader https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/the-real-public-health-hazard-is-utah-governor-gary-herbert-13318/#comment-29069 Sat, 23 Apr 2016 21:18:42 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=13318#comment-29069 In reply to mharris127.

@mharris
Major flaws to your rationale.
1. The child has NO say yeah or nea on immunizations.
2. Parents must provide the vaccines or a legitimate objection notice or their child can’t attend.
3. Parents pay for immunizations via cash, paid or low income provided insurance and get EOB … Explanation of benefits.
4. The intent is to thwart stuff like measles and other stuff easily transmitted among students sitting in class together.
5. Given #4 you’d have to get the boards of Ed to agree that sex is part of a students usual school day.
6. Number five will not happen.

Think about what you’re suggesting and consider this. Schools do not require annual flu vaccinations despite the number of missed student attendance days…those are known and quantified as the basis to the majority of school board funding.

Good luck getting health departments to query their STI data by school district attendance areas. That’s a whole other can of worms with autonomous charter school districts and private school attendance. Bottom line unless the unknown quantity of STI are disproportionately affecting students ability to learn your idea is beyond the scope of the US educational system intents and purposes.

By the way do you know how many cases of teacher diagnosed ADHD there are in schools or how many cases of bonfide physician diagnosed asthma? Hint there is more asthma and danger to those students who can’t access their inhalers to combat dustmites & cockroach dander among other usual school day hazards.

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By: mharris127 https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/the-real-public-health-hazard-is-utah-governor-gary-herbert-13318/#comment-29066 Sat, 23 Apr 2016 17:04:28 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=13318#comment-29066 In reply to Hop Sing.

I would hope that kids are still virgins in 5th grade, Hop. However, my idea of mandatory VD testing of all minor HS students is based on the same logic that allows states to require mandatory immunizations. I don’t think that outlandish at all considering high schools have become almost literal petri dishes for VD with at least half of the students fucking multiple partners by age 16 and in most states not knowing jack shit about how to protect themselves. A syphilis or HIV outbreak is just one student fucking the wrong person away, when that happens there will be a VD epidemic in one or more high schools (if there isn’t already). Mandatory testing would nip that in the bud and possibly save many lives if HIV is involved. What is the difference between requiring immunizations and requiring regular VD testing? I don’t see any difference whatsoever.

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By: BT https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/the-real-public-health-hazard-is-utah-governor-gary-herbert-13318/#comment-29065 Sat, 23 Apr 2016 10:55:02 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=13318#comment-29065 In reply to Hop Sing.

For those who continue to push the fantasy that if the law cracks down on porn in California they’ll just relocate to New Hampshire, where its legal, the governor took one of the first steps to change that this week, signing a bill to outlaw revenge porn in NH.

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By: LurkingReader https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/the-real-public-health-hazard-is-utah-governor-gary-herbert-13318/#comment-29062 Sat, 23 Apr 2016 09:32:06 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=13318#comment-29062 In reply to mharris127.

what states?

It’s possible some municipalities have an agreement with the local health dept to use their building to provide services but it’s a separate program and doesn’t fall under dept of Ed. Given the reality that most schools don’t provide a RN for diabetics, heart conditions and asthma the idea that a physician is on the premises all day to order tests isn’t meshing.

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By: Hop Sing https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/the-real-public-health-hazard-is-utah-governor-gary-herbert-13318/#comment-29060 Sat, 23 Apr 2016 04:24:53 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=13318#comment-29060 @Matthew Harris

Mandatory VD testing for high school kids? Hell, why wait that long, Matt? Test them in 5th grade. Dude, you’ve seriously lost it. You’ve made some outlandish statements here but this one may be at the top.

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