Comments on: GirlsDoPorn Being Sued For Millions, Girls Claim That They Were Even Threatened. https://mikesouth.com/legal/girlsdoporn-being-sued-for-millions-girls-claim-that-they-were-even-threatened-13504/ The institute for the advance study of insensitivity and pornography Tue, 04 Sep 2018 21:42:43 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: lukeslc https://mikesouth.com/legal/girlsdoporn-being-sued-for-millions-girls-claim-that-they-were-even-threatened-13504/#comment-33428 Tue, 04 Sep 2018 21:42:43 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=13504#comment-33428 I am looking forward to the complete and total destruction of gdp.

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By: The GirlsDoPorn.com Lawsuit - Update: Legal Troubles Continue - Mike South https://mikesouth.com/legal/girlsdoporn-being-sued-for-millions-girls-claim-that-they-were-even-threatened-13504/#comment-31101 Wed, 05 Apr 2017 20:43:26 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=13504#comment-31101 […] talked about the site GirlsDoPorn.com and their legal troubles in the […]

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By: Is girls do porn real? READER EMAIL - Mike South https://mikesouth.com/legal/girlsdoporn-being-sued-for-millions-girls-claim-that-they-were-even-threatened-13504/#comment-31089 Sat, 01 Apr 2017 06:04:55 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=13504#comment-31089 […] read the article you wrote about the lawsuit. Is girls do porn real? I don’t get how that shit works. How do they get so many hot girls to […]

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By: Djoser https://mikesouth.com/legal/girlsdoporn-being-sued-for-millions-girls-claim-that-they-were-even-threatened-13504/#comment-31074 Tue, 28 Mar 2017 08:16:38 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=13504#comment-31074 “…because the defendants switched out the middle of a stack of $20 bills with $1 bills.” Ha! There ARE assholes who will try this shit, hordes of them. I’ve worked in stripclubs 17 years, and I’ve seen lameass dipshit hustlers (including male & female staff members) try every trick in the book to score some pussy, money, or both from the presumably gullible female talent. Whether these guys in question actually did so is not something I could make an educated guess about, since I wasn’t there, never met the guys, and haven’t even watched one of their videos yet–despite the fact that there are forums where I can download several hundred of the damned things for free. Because the videos are obviously lame, just from what I saw of the preview pictures. BT, your summary of the situation is extremely cogent. Well done. The only thing I would add is: where there’s smoke, there’s probably some kind of fire. Despite the teeming hordes of disgusting vermin known as lawyers, ready and willing to use pliable women to rake in insane profits from hustling them into a courtroom as easily as they were hustled into sucking some rude motherfucker’s dick; and despite the propensity for scheming bimbos to lie, cheat, and then cry to the authorities in order to make a few extra dollars, if these guys at GDP treated each and every model with respect and courtesy, I doubt very much we’d be seeing this lawsuit.

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By: Karmafan https://mikesouth.com/legal/girlsdoporn-being-sued-for-millions-girls-claim-that-they-were-even-threatened-13504/#comment-29767 Mon, 04 Jul 2016 19:45:00 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=13504#comment-29767 In reply to BT.

This is an interesting read:

http://www.courthousenews.com/2016/06/09/women-call-socal-pornographers-brutal-liars.htm

LOL… Jane Doe No. 1 says she was promised more than $9,000 to appear in three videos.
Jane Doe No. 4 says she was promised $2,000 and paid just $400, because the defendants switched out the middle of a stack of $20 bills with $1 bills.

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By: BT https://mikesouth.com/legal/girlsdoporn-being-sued-for-millions-girls-claim-that-they-were-even-threatened-13504/#comment-29747 Mon, 27 Jun 2016 12:16:05 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=13504#comment-29747 In reply to tilmans.

“Either way we will see what happens, but I have a feeling everything fell somewhere in between, and that still isn’t very good.” Tilmans has this exactly right. Remember that this is a civil case and not a criminal case. As such, guilt or innocence beyond a reasonable doubt is not the standards. It’s whether its more probable than not that something happened. Girls being naïve – or, the way porn fans like to refer to them as stupid whores – can work against the producers, who may look like they’re preying on girls who are too young to know what’s good for them. One of the things that is being overlooked in the commentary is that, at least according to the reporting, there are some facts that can be verified. One is how GDP advertises – if, as the reporting alleges, they’re advertising on sites like Craigslist for “models,” and not for girls who want to break into pornography, they’re going to be on the defensive right out of the gate because it looks like a bait and switch.

Again, I know nothing whatsoever about what happens in this instance and am not implying guilt or innocence. Just saying that if your business model is to advertise for one thing and then, when the conversation gets real, say that its really for something else, it doesn’t look good.

And yes, the Mann Act is still in effect, but that’s for criminal matters. No one is alleging a crime.

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By: tilmans https://mikesouth.com/legal/girlsdoporn-being-sued-for-millions-girls-claim-that-they-were-even-threatened-13504/#comment-29746 Mon, 27 Jun 2016 06:18:12 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=13504#comment-29746 Most of the porn performers I have known, men included, were at one time coerced to do something they didn’t want to do on set. I am a former performer myself. I made a future years ago outside this industry and as a producer for some time but if you are calling them whores while defending the producers and insinuating at how dumb all of the girls are you are not doing much for your case of innocence. Either way there are still items like the Mann Act, and whether or not they knew what they were getting themselves into is null. Either way we will see what happens, but I have a feeling everything fell somewhere in between, and that still isn’t very good.

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By: schlermy https://mikesouth.com/legal/girlsdoporn-being-sued-for-millions-girls-claim-that-they-were-even-threatened-13504/#comment-29712 Wed, 22 Jun 2016 20:26:37 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=13504#comment-29712 In reply to Karmafan.

No matter how airheaded they are in this country they are all very savvy with their smartphones and grllfriend network. Gaarraanntteeeddd they did a google search to see how much a porn whore gets for one scene..and how much $$ they can snatch for doing that one scene and parlaying it into escort/Pro work.

When these brainiacs don’t get that 2 grand a nite(3 day work week x 2K = 6 thousand dollars a week! You go grrllllfriend!) being a high class porn escort/Ho’ then they get together and go another silly/unrealistic angle to get money for virtually nothing. They gaggle together and hire a lawyer expecting they all will get AT LEAST half a million dollars(more, more, more. we’ll take more if you give it to us!). “Um, yeah..we were FORCED into sex..um, yeaahhh, we were told our sex scenes were going to be put only on DVD and sold only in Scandanavia. Yeah, that’s what they told us and they also promised us thousands of dollars per scene! Noooo, I can’t produce one single shred of paper or contract where it says I was to be paid NINE THOUSAND DOLLARS. But they promised me the moon and the stars and all I got was $400!!!”

I’m not a defender of GDP but I seriously doubt these gals were coerced at all. They may have been shortchanged but coerced? Forced? Gimme a break.

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By: Karmafan https://mikesouth.com/legal/girlsdoporn-being-sued-for-millions-girls-claim-that-they-were-even-threatened-13504/#comment-29711 Wed, 22 Jun 2016 17:00:00 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=13504#comment-29711 In reply to BT.

I am sure there are plenty and I mean PLENTY of pretty airhead girls in this country that are innocent (or foolish) enough to believe people that tell them as BT says:

“Is it the teeniest bit possible that porn producers who have just spent money flying someone across country, renting a hotel room, and hiring a crew might, oh, I don’t know, stretch the truth to coerce someone into shooting a scene, by saying something like: You’re so pretty, you can make thousands. If you want to get into porn, you can be the next Jenna Jameson. What are you worried about? No one will see this.”

In their little shitburg home town they are the darling of their town. The most popular girl in their high school and someone comes along and says he can make them famous? You bet your ass they will reel in a few fishes that way.

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By: BT https://mikesouth.com/legal/girlsdoporn-being-sued-for-millions-girls-claim-that-they-were-even-threatened-13504/#comment-29710 Wed, 22 Jun 2016 12:00:52 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=13504#comment-29710 In reply to schlermy.

NormalAndSane will sue me for stealing his moniker, but let’s get normal and sane. First, I have no idea whether any of these allegations are true or not and don’t mean to imply that they are (or that they’re not). Like Mike and NAS, I’m bothered as well and worry a little about buyer’s remorse, especially when you’re talking about girls who are 18 to 22 years old and, having watched a few GDP vids, aren’t always the brightest bulbs in the world. That said …..

There is a difference between criminal and civil charges. One is the level of proof required in a court of law – in a criminal case, where a prosecutor would bring a charge of rape and false imprisonment, the standard of proof is beyond a reasonable doubt, the bad actors go to jail if convicted and the victim …… gets nothing but the satisfaction of putting the bad guys away. If you’re a young girl from out of state, as many of these girls are based on their interviews, you have to find a prosecutor who is willing to bring charges to a jury after the young thing signed a contract and was possibly paid – and, she is going to have to significantly disrupt her life to come to the jurisdiction where the trial is being held to get …. Nada.

Meanwhile, a civil case needs a preponderance of the evidence – defined as “more likely than not” that the bad thing happened or 51% chance that it happened – just beyond 50/50. Civil cases are about contracts gone bad when money has changed hands, or was supposed to have changed hands and didn’t. And, if the bad guy loses, the verdict requires the payment of funds to the person who was taken advantage of.

If any of these allegations are true, they fit the bill of a civil case.

Now do “porn whores lie?” Absolutely. Is it the teeniest bit possible that porn producers who have just spent money flying someone across country, renting a hotel room, and hiring a crew might, oh, I don’t know, stretch the truth to coerce someone into shooting a scene, by saying something like: You’re so pretty, you can make thousands. If you want to get into porn, you can be the next Jenna Jameson. What are you worried about? No one will see this.

As to “only the stupidest fool in the entire world would believe they can get 3K a scene,” remember you’re talking 20 year olds who have no experience in the business world, don’t have agents, so have absolutely no idea whatsoever what they should get paid to allow themselves to get filmed, and, if they’ve watched any interviews with porn starlets at all, what they’ve heard is: My life is so fabulous now. I’m making so much money in porn, I couldn’t be happier. If Angelina Jolie gets $25 million to make a movie, why shouldn’t they get a couple of grand to screw someone on camera?

Put another way, why would anyone believe the ads that read: Make thousands working from home (Or Trump University saying you can become a millionaire real estate mogul if you just pay $30,000 to Trump University)? But, millions buy into it.

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