That’s what Taylor Rain said about me re her award for best site gone to shit….I guess that means she didn’t like it. That’s OK Taylor I was here before you were her and I will be here long after you are gone.
Benjamin Writes:
Mike,
The President is a self serving son of a babs. First of all, anything he does, he does for his gain or his cronies. Second, his oath of office doesn’t mean much more than the horse shit crusted on his Crawford boots.
He made an oath a long time ago that supercedes any other… the oath to the Cross & Bones. So, that’s why he has the attitude. That’s why Kerry(Bonesman) ran against him. It was for the greater good. Theirs!
He also has been laying into the constitution, calling it “just a god damn piece of paper”
Not only is his a dangerous man, but he is the worst kind of dangerous man… a dumb one.
Quasarman Writes:
Signed by Clinton in 95
FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE PHYSICAL SEARCHES
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, including sections 302 and 303 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (“Act”) (50 U.S.C. 1801, et seq.), as amended by Public Law 103- 359, and in order to provide for the authorization of physical searches for foreign intelligence purposes as set forth in the Act, it is hereby ordered as follows:
Section 1. Pursuant to section 302(a)(1) of the Act, the Attorney General is authorized to approve physical searches, without a court order, to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year, if the Attorney General makes the certifications required by that section.
Sec. 2. Pursuant to section 302(b) of the Act, the Attorney General is authorized to approve applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court under section 303 of the Act to obtain orders for physical searches for the purpose of collecting foreign intelligence information.
Sec. 3. Pursuant to section 303(a)(7) of the Act, the following officials, each of whom is employed in the area of national security or defense, is designated to make the certifications required by section 303(a)(7) of the Act in support of applications to conduct physical searches:
(a) Secretary of State;
(b) Secretary of Defense;
(c) Director of Central Intelligence;
(d) Director of the Federal Bureau of
Investigation;
(e) Deputy Secretary of State;
(f) Deputy Secretary of Defense; and
(g) Deputy Director of Central Intelligence.
None of the above officials, nor anyone officially acting in that capacity, may exercise the authority to make the above certifications, unless that official has been appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate.
WILLIAM J. CLINTON
THE WHITE HOUSE,
February 9, 1995.
Now you know that I agree with you most of the time South but I think there’s entirely too much hysteria over this wire-tap issue. From what I understand, no information gleaned from any wiretapped call could be used for prosecution. It would be inadmissible in any court. It could however be used to disrupt a future plan to fly a plane into a building. Is it a slippery slope? Absolutely, but I don’t see it as an erosion of our fundamental liberties and I guarantee you that no Democrat currently fillabustering the patriot act has a clue that Clinton signed the executive order authorizing just this sort of wire tap. Just my two cents. I’m sure you’ll add 3 more and make a nickel.
OK, for starters lets look at the pertinent part of that act, namely
The statute states, in pertinent part, “Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that (A) the electronic surveillance is solely directed at (i) the acquisition of the contents of communications transmitted by means of communications used exclusively between or among foreign powers; or (ii) the acquisition of technical intelligence, other than the spoken communications of individuals, from property or premises under the open and exclusive control of a foreign power; [and] (B) there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party.”
A “United States person” is defined under this Act as “a citizen of the United States; an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence; an unincorporated association a substantial number of members of which are citizens of the United States or aliens lawfully admitted for permanent residence, or a corporation which is incorporated in the United States, but does not include a corporation or an association which is a foreign power.”
That’s the real verbage..now note the part about ” no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party.
And the real truth is that I don’t give a fuck if it’s done by Bush, Clinton or Donald Fucking Duck, it is and should be illegal.
Thanks to Griswald V. Connecticut the Supreme Court has ruled that the Constitution recognizes a right to privacy and as such that right to privacy may not be abridged, particularly without due process. I don’t like the idea of steadily eroding our rights, today it’s to save us from terrorists, tomorrow drugs and day after pornographers, when does it reach Jesus killers…I think you get my meaning here.
I For one will not willingly sacrifice my right to privacy so that Bush or any other scumbag can use it for any purpose whatsoever and I don’t give a fuck if 99% of the citizens think I should…We do NOT live in a Democracy…if we did black people would still be less than equal, In this country the thing that protects me from that 99% is The Constitution and George Bush has no right to over ride it.
Period.
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That’s what Taylor Rain said about me re her award for best site gone to shit….I guess that means she didn’t like it. That’s OK Taylor I was here before you were her and I will be here long after you are gone.
Benjamin Writes:
Mike,
The President is a self serving son of a babs. First of all, anything he does, he does for his gain or his cronies. Second, his oath of office doesn’t mean much more than the horse shit crusted on his Crawford boots.
He made an oath a long time ago that supercedes any other… the oath to the Cross & Bones. So, that’s why he has the attitude. That’s why Kerry(Bonesman) ran against him. It was for the greater good. Theirs!
He also has been laying into the constitution, calling it “just a god damn piece of paper”
Not only is his a dangerous man, but he is the worst kind of dangerous man… a dumb one.
Quasarman Writes:
Signed by Clinton in 95
FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE PHYSICAL SEARCHES
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States, including sections 302 and 303 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (“Act”) (50 U.S.C. 1801, et seq.), as amended by Public Law 103- 359, and in order to provide for the authorization of physical searches for foreign intelligence purposes as set forth in the Act, it is hereby ordered as follows:
Section 1. Pursuant to section 302(a)(1) of the Act, the Attorney General is authorized to approve physical searches, without a court order, to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year, if the Attorney General makes the certifications required by that section.
Sec. 2. Pursuant to section 302(b) of the Act, the Attorney General is authorized to approve applications to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court under section 303 of the Act to obtain orders for physical searches for the purpose of collecting foreign intelligence information.
Sec. 3. Pursuant to section 303(a)(7) of the Act, the following officials, each of whom is employed in the area of national security or defense, is designated to make the certifications required by section 303(a)(7) of the Act in support of applications to conduct physical searches:
(a) Secretary of State;
(b) Secretary of Defense;
(c) Director of Central Intelligence;
(d) Director of the Federal Bureau of
Investigation;
(e) Deputy Secretary of State;
(f) Deputy Secretary of Defense; and
(g) Deputy Director of Central Intelligence.
None of the above officials, nor anyone officially acting in that capacity, may exercise the authority to make the above certifications, unless that official has been appointed by the President, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate.
WILLIAM J. CLINTON
THE WHITE HOUSE,
February 9, 1995.
Now you know that I agree with you most of the time South but I think there’s entirely too much hysteria over this wire-tap issue. From what I understand, no information gleaned from any wiretapped call could be used for prosecution. It would be inadmissible in any court. It could however be used to disrupt a future plan to fly a plane into a building. Is it a slippery slope? Absolutely, but I don’t see it as an erosion of our fundamental liberties and I guarantee you that no Democrat currently fillabustering the patriot act has a clue that Clinton signed the executive order authorizing just this sort of wire tap. Just my two cents. I’m sure you’ll add 3 more and make a nickel.
OK, for starters lets look at the pertinent part of that act, namely
The statute states, in pertinent part, “Notwithstanding any other law, the President, through the Attorney General, may authorize electronic surveillance without a court order under this subchapter to acquire foreign intelligence information for periods of up to one year if the Attorney General certifies in writing under oath that (A) the electronic surveillance is solely directed at (i) the acquisition of the contents of communications transmitted by means of communications used exclusively between or among foreign powers; or (ii) the acquisition of technical intelligence, other than the spoken communications of individuals, from property or premises under the open and exclusive control of a foreign power; [and] (B) there is no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party.”
A “United States person” is defined under this Act as “a citizen of the United States; an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence; an unincorporated association a substantial number of members of which are citizens of the United States or aliens lawfully admitted for permanent residence, or a corporation which is incorporated in the United States, but does not include a corporation or an association which is a foreign power.”
That’s the real verbage..now note the part about ” no substantial likelihood that the surveillance will acquire the contents of any communication to which a United States person is a party.
And the real truth is that I don’t give a fuck if it’s done by Bush, Clinton or Donald Fucking Duck, it is and should be illegal.
Thanks to Griswald V. Connecticut the Supreme Court has ruled that the Constitution recognizes a right to privacy and as such that right to privacy may not be abridged, particularly without due process. I don’t like the idea of steadily eroding our rights, today it’s to save us from terrorists, tomorrow drugs and day after pornographers, when does it reach Jesus killers…I think you get my meaning here.
I For one will not willingly sacrifice my right to privacy so that Bush or any other scumbag can use it for any purpose whatsoever and I don’t give a fuck if 99% of the citizens think I should…We do NOT live in a Democracy…if we did black people would still be less than equal, In this country the thing that protects me from that 99% is The Constitution and George Bush has no right to over ride it.
Period.
Mike
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