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A Plan To Get STDs In Porn Under Control

I started considering how we might improve things ourselves in the biz, get the STDs under control  I think I at least have the beginnings of a workable solution that would allow condomless porn.

First everyone shoots condom only or doesnt shoot for a week or two then EVERYONE tests as though they were new to the biz.

When you first come into the biz you get a full battery of tests….HIV, chlamydia, Gonorrhea, Hep A B and C, HPV (yes there is a test for men), and Syphilis. If you test positive you don’t work until your test is clean.  Hopefully this motivates performers to be more careful in their private lives.

People who are negative for HEP A and B and HPV get vaccinated for them

HIV testing includes both the PCR and the ELISA tests

Prior to every shoot all performers take an instant test for HIV, Chlamydia, Gonorrhea and syphilis.  Instant tests are available and inexpensive, I am sure that we could get them in quantity for 30 bucks or less for the full panel.  If there is a problem administering these tests without proper training then get people trained as part of the licensing requirement.

Every thirty days performers additionally get an HIV test (PCR) and a HEP C test

Any performer who fakes a test is out.  Period. No if’s ands or buts.  Any person facilitating a performer faking a test is also out. forever. Period.

The cost of all testing must be paid for by producers so there will have to be a method to work this out, sure it might be a little difficult but I guarantee you it won’t be as difficult or as costly as trying to fight these laws in perpetuity.

Proposing and implementing something of this nature is probably the only prayer we have to regulate ourselves and stave off  expansion of the condom laws.

 

 

 

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  1. So the producer has paid for the location, crew, make-up artist, etc. and then the talent tests positive right there on the set. Oh, and the talent who tested positive is the star of the movie and can’t be replaced! The companies want to continue to infect their workforce with impunity without spending an extra dime on ANYTHING. So the idea that the companies are going to even agree to pay for testing is tenuous at best. And how do you stop someone from ever working again? They can simply shoot their own content to get around that one. Trust me, some clueless person will be willing to work with them anyway (read marcus). I myself have tried to see a way that condoms could be eschewed, to no avail. The unscrupulous people in this industry have ruined it for the rest of us, plain and simple. Instead of trying to make better and better content to make more money, they’ve chosen the opposite route and make sicker and sicker content in an attempt to outdo their competitor and thereby corner the pervert market. It’s time for someone to step in and say enough is enough! Please, people, these are our sons and daughters we’re throwing to the slaughter! It’s time to stop the madness.

  2. Mike, your proposal can work if you can create some kind of regulatory arm that is either part of the state or sanctioned by the state. You need an NFL or NBA that will actually assess fines and suspensions. Someone has to referee, with the authority to throw a flag, penalize or even toss someone from the game.

    Take boxing. If you think about it, its an institutionalized assault. But its regulated. You can’t just fight. You have to be licensed to fight. You have to pass a physical by a sanctioned doc. A fighter who fails a physical today can fight again in the future if he or she passes a physical. People who violate the rules are fined and, if violations continue, are banned by the sport. But at its foundation, participants are regulated.

    A plan like the one you suggest has a lot of merit. It could work if the industry cooperates with the state and agrees to some level of regulation. Or creates a regulatory agency with teeth.

    Unfortunately, the response from the industry has been that they have a First Amendment protection and testing procedures in place that put them beyond the reach of regulation.

    I keep reading quotes from porn talent that says: We don’t want the government in our bedrooms. I completely agree with them. I don’t want the government telling me what my wife and I can do in our bedroom. But a porn set is not a couples’ bedroom – not even a swinging couples’ bedroom. It’s part of a commercial enterprise.

    The biggest companies like Vivid would probably benefit from a structure like you’re suggesting because they have the manpower and financial wherewithall to comply. The little guy with a camera and a couple of grand to throw at talent will likely become a thing of the past. That may not be a bad thing.

    Let’s face it. At the end of the day, the people who are most vulnerable, no matter what happens, is talent. And they are the ones paying the least amount of attention.

    While they argue about their first amendment right to be beaten, electrocuted, spit on, squirted on and penetrated in every manner imaginable by every combination of people and objects imaginable, their health, the length of their career and their paychecks are at risk.

    Their health because in the current environment they’re exposed to way too many STDs and asked to do way too many extreme things in the name of art.

    Their finances because the cost of compliance is likely to come out of their performance fees and because the extreme nature of what they’re being asked to do is going to shorten their career. Boxing is another great example – look at the length of the careers of boxers who know how to slip a punch and wear down an opponent versus the brawlers who win in slugfests. The sluggers are exciting to watch, but they don’t last.

    Performers who are doing some of the most extreme acts should take note.

  3. Great plan. Porn Vally won’t do it, but it is a great plan nonetheless. However, I would really do some research on the Gardasil HPV vaccine before it gets pushed on everyone as there seems to be a lot of controversy surrounding it regarding health issues.

  4. Rob Black asks: Why Aren’t Lawyers Ending the Masquerade of Agent Contracts?

    “I can’t fathom that women in porn declared this as their purpose in life,” said Black.

    “Like doing tricks at the Air Tel Plaza for $250, finding sugar daddies at PSK or going to Dubai and working for the prince.

    “I can’t imagine this is what you wanted to do. You got into the business thinking you might be the next Jenna Jameson. You didn’t get into the business thinking you’re going to do tricks at the Air Tel. There’s more out there for you.”

    The porn future, said Black, is going to where talent don’t need the studios any more. Black said it was also time to get out of the mindset of being “dumb talent” and listening to more advice from people out there.

    Black also talked about how women getting into porn nowadays aren’t prepared for the fact that they’re going to wind up being glorified hookers, not porn stars.

    “Any other industry in the US, pricing has gone up,” said Black. “Not porn.”

    “The Adult industry has been done in by Derek Hay and Steve Hirsch,” Black contends.

    “Let’s all look back at what is was like 15 years. The business now revolves around women, live sex shows, camming, every aspect has gone down. At strip clubs you can’t make a dime. Talk to a girl who danced 15 years ago and talk to feature girls now.

    “It’s worse. Why? Back then you had a business controlled by one group with a set of rules. Now you’ve get more groups and no regulation. Bottom feeders came in and ruined a good thing. They took something beautiful and pure, and they fucking destroyed it.”

    “The sex business hasn’t changed. It’s still assholes and vagina. If you’re hooking, what has changed in 15 years? You’re working cheaper.

    “Every one of you girls, you’re doing privates for $200; and you do cell phone content with your agent. Okay. Our business is the only one that has regressed and gotten cheaper. Unlike the tobacco industry which has raised its prices because tobacco is addictive, porn is an addiction yet we’ve lowered the price!!

    “Instead of using sex to your advantage with a product that’s addicting, we discount it to where girls give blowjobs for $100.

    “If you’re going to do tricks, save the money and invest it in yourself.”

    Black recommended that performers take the Clips4sale, do it yourself route.

    “They process it for you and send you a check like clockwork. That’s the type of stuff you should be doing. But I never said you could change a system overnight and that it’s easy. It seems like a lot more than spreading your legs for fat sweaty guys, but you have to think about where you’re going with your life.

    “I love hookers,” said Black.

    “I love the concept of paying a girl for doing what you want and then she leaves. Awesome. But there’s a time and a place for all of that. The girls in our business are no different than picking up a girl on Melrose and putting her in the middle of a porn scene.

    “Doing privates at the Air Tel is no different than a girl working on Sunset Blvd. But we would never think of taking a girl from Sunset Blvd and sending her to Talent Testing to do a scene. Because we would never put our industry in such a flagrant violation? But that’s what we do in porn.”

    Black’s belief is that most girls who are hooking in the business don’t have the balls to be hookers outside of the business for fear of getting busted.

    “But you’re still a hooker. Go back to Florida or Indianapolis and be a hooker. Go pro. Go hang out at a local Applebees and work the bar like you would do at Porn Star Karaoke. Have some fucking balls to go on Twitter and solicit.

    “You came to LA and you pretend you’re a porn star. Have some self respect. Ask yourself this, Are you a porn star that does privates, or are you a hooker that gets some scene work?

    “Either way, you’re a piece of shit because you don’t have the balls to do what girls in Nevada do. Register there, get licensed and work as a hooker.

    “In the camming business, I watch girls make $100 in an hour,” said Black.

    “I go why are you not doing this every day, all day? ‘But you don’t know what’s like.’

    “Tell me. Where I can masturbate and make $100 for an hour and I’m done? I’ll jerk off in a chair. Why don’t you do this 4 hours? Fuck you!!!!!!! I think I would take a glass dildo and tap my cock for a couple of hours rather then bend over and have Adam Killian shove his dick up my asshole for $800.”

    Sad to say, but Black noted how girls in the adult business have been trained to be stripped of whatever dignity they have left.

    “I know that every girl does not get into business with the idea ‘I have to go to the Dodger game with so and so, or blow this guy.’ And I can’t imagine every girl that likes to do that.

    “The Derek Hays of this business aren’t empowering the women,” says Black.

    In the case of Lizzy Borden, Black noted that Borden did six scenes before she got together with him.

    “She’ll tell you, ‘I went to prison, but my soul was never stripped where you suck and fuck and you’re basically treated like a piece of garbage.’

    “But that’s an idea bestowed on you by LA Direct,” said Black.

    “’Oh, we own your web site and we need more content.’ Girls are working for guys who profess that they’re working for the talent, but are taking advantage of them. Seriously. You don’t love talent when you own them. That’s not how it is.

    “And any guy who has an agent is a dumb fuck. If you have Derek Hay or Bud Lee representing you, you’re gay. Get all the gay talent together. Come at me with guns, choke me out, fuck me in the ass, if you don’t like what I’m saying, but if you have Derek Hay telling you when to shoot and piss- if you are that much of a fucking loser talent that nobody calls you to book you, you’re a loser and not talented enough to do a goddamn thing.”

    Black said he just had a conversation with a beautiful girl who wanted to leave LA Direct but was threatened with legal repercussions over her three year contract.

    “Can you believe this human piece of garbage, Derek Hay, is running that game still, and has this beautiful girl under a 3 year contract?”

    Black also wondered why people of influence in the adult business aren’t stepping in and ending the masquerade of talent agency contracts.

    “Michael Fattorosi, you seem to have some kind of influence- why don’t you put your balls out there and say my name is Fattorosi and say every single contract from LA Direct is bullshit?

    “Vanessa Blue, why don’t you sit there and go my successful lawyer husband is going to represent every single woman in this business that is being done wrong? You guys are living pretty well to handle a pro bono case, why don’t you do that?

    “Why don’t you people out there in a position to help do that? If I was a lawyer, I would run with it. I would be doing all the things necessary to get the shit done.”

  5. My companies X-Play and sitcums.com have always made quality content that one reviewer even called ‘Disney Porn’ which I took as a compliment. Although I was not going to comment on this post I have to take respectful issue of Nick East’s comment when he writes about other companies, “Instead of trying to make better and better content to make more money, they’ve chosen the opposite route and make sicker and sicker content in an attempt to outdo their competitor and thereby corner the pervert market. It’s time for someone to step in and say enough is enough!”

    I don’t doubt what Nick is saying but as an industry and as a society we run a very slippery slope when we attempt to censor one person’s art in favor of another person’s art. Just saying.

  6. Hi Mike,

    Just wanted to point out an error in one of proposals, “People who are negative for HEP A and B and HPV get vaccinated for them”.

    1) There is currently no vaccination available for Hep A.

    2) Currently, there is no HPV test recommended for men. The only approved HPV tests on the market are for screening women for cervical cancer.

  7. There is indeed a vaccine for Hep A and B there is not one for hep C

    There is also a test for HPV for men…it involves taking a small skin sample from the penis. It isnt widely done but it is available and that is why I have suggested the test be done just once on entry

  8. My bad, just found the CDC info on the Hep A vaccine. I already knew about Hep C. One other point, both Hep A and B vaccines are series vaccines, Hep A given in 2 doses at 6 months apart and Hep B with the following schedule:
    First Injection – At any given time
    Second Injection – At least one month after the first dose
    Third Injection – Six months after the first dose

    My question(s) is , do you think performers would follow this schedule and who would tract the performers?

    Also, is the HPV test for men FDA approved? Also, the FDA approved the HPV test to be used for women over 30 years old.

  9. Jeff? I wasn’t talking about censorship. I was talking about how much times have changed and how much more extreme scenes keep getting. And I didn’t mean to lump your company into that category, sorry. To clarify, there are SOME companies that are making a good product (some might even say excellent!) here in America, and they are not the problem as much as the creampie gang bang bukakke piss shit rape cattle prod electrocution scenes (art?) that seem to get more and more extreme as time goes on. Where do we draw the line on ‘art’, Jeff? And don’t say there aren’t limits, because I don’t see anyone shooting girls under 18! What other limits should there be? I would really like to know!

  10. Just a thought, too. Back in the day, there were only so many distributors willing to distribute adult material (before the internet). THEY refused to distribute what they considered dangerous and they had a whole list of things they wouldn’t touch. For instance, no fisting scenes (some would still be shot for the foreign market though) no choking the girl, the girl HAD to consent to the sex SOMEHOW, etc.
    Now with internet digital distribution, there are no rules anymore! There isn’t anybody to say, “sorry, you need to re-edit that before we can take it.” Now anything goes, it seems.

  11. no worries…im no doctor but…I have had the hep a and b vaccines and i expect if the industry required it and paid for it most would do it it was no biggie really for me and i even paid for it myself
    as for HPV from what I understand its a special case test for men and is usually not given because the warts generally show up visibly but porn is a special case I think, given the serious implications of HPV for women thats its a reasonable thing to look into for us.

    Im not saying my idea is perfect just that its a start and Im not JUST bitching…Im offering possible solutions.

  13. Nick, lol I didn’t ever think you were referring to my company at all so no worries there. You ask where should the limits be? That is a fantastic question and I can only say I don’t have a great answer but maybe when somebody is not volunteering 100%. Listen, I don’t enjoy or watch the harder insane crazy stuff either but I think people do have a right to watch it if they wish. I am also pretty sure there are some church-goers that think my movies like Not the Bradys XXX are sinful and crazy because we took a wholesome family and now they’re all having sex. I have received threatening letters addressed to Will Ryder because I spoofed the Cosby Show. Should I be banned and have a limit placed on me for what I can create even though many enjoy my movies? This is a very tough subject but I totally understand what you are saying and don’t disagree I just have a hard time putting a muzzle on anybody that doesn’t hurt, kill or inflict unwanted pain on another in the pursuit of their craft and if we do limit them according to what is good for some, then yes that is a form of censorship.

    We are going through a big transformation on how entertainment is delivered and the rulebook is out the window and although it is much too late to take back control at least it is for me, I do think that many have forgotten an old commandment- ‘Thou Shalt Not Steal’. If that commandment was respected we would all be better off.

  14. Snuff films, kiddie porn, is that ‘ART’? What exactly defines the difference between ‘art’ and obsenity? Some could argue that the children LOVE what they do, and I have heard of people WANTING to be the subject of a snuff film! True story! One guy even wanted someone to eat him alive and film it!!! Is that art or obsene? What about the woman who kept calling Jim South asking to film beastiality! Do the animals REALLY mind? Is that ‘art’? Should THAT be legal? How about incest? ‘Art’ or obsene? Someone could argue that each and every one of these film categories has willing participants 100%!

  15. And how about films that promote pedophilia? Intentionally making the girls seem underage and act underage and dress underage in order to fulfill sick fantasies that their viewers might have while their daughters are sleeping in their beds nearby? Or How about Kandi Hart stripping onstage in a BROWNIES uniform? I made her burn that one! Was I wrong to stop her from basically saying to her audience “Hey, I’m with ya! Little girls are sexy!!!” Is that censorship? If so, I say censor away!!! We don’t need to encourage deviant behavior with movies showing said behavior! I mean, Jeff? You wouldn’t ask any of your actresses to act like children in your films, would you?

  16. Nick, I would propose to you that the legitimate reason snuff films and child porn are illegal is because the underlying behavior is illegal. It is illegal to have sex with a child, doesn’t matter if the child is willing. It’s illegal in fact to just depict a child in a sexual way, since the child can’t give meaningful legal consent to such conduct. It’s illegal to kill someone–doesn’t matter if the person is willing. Whether these things are art or not is really beside the point.

    In other words, just because something does in fact qualify as art doesn’t mean it can’t be forbidden, even under the First Amendment.

    But we don’t ban things like snuff and child porn not because we find the content gross–or rather, that’s not the really legitimate reason we do so. Rather, we ban those films because to make them necessarily involves the breaking of criminal laws.

  17. Nick, of course we don’t allow those types of movies exactly for the reason that Alex B stated. I hate that shit as much as anybody because there is no willing participant on the end of the stick so to speak and to me it is a vile and disgusting thing to do. Same with animals as they cannot speak up for themselves so we agree on that. I make movies that create satire and parody elements of an existing show so my goal is always to get the look, feel and acting as close to the original source material as possible without committing copyright infringement. We are very careful with that and we always use actors that are 18 and over so there is nothing illegal ever taking place. I don’t think I am qualified to determine what is art versus obscenity because it is such an individual right of determination and each person should be allowed to make that choice themselves as long as nobody is underage, nobody is an unwilling participant, nobody is getting hurt against their will, nobody is getting killed regardless if they give permission and no animals are used out of context with what they normally do in their animal life. If it was up to me i would sentence and put to death all pedophiles, murderers, thieves, child abusers and physical attackers (and possibly some others) but I would have a hard time telling somebody that what they think is art is a pile of shit. I don’t want anybody putting up those types of walls around me but then again i don’t ever break any laws. I respect your opinion though and that is what makes this country pretty darn good.

  18. Hello Mr Jeff mullen do you think the industry can stop tube sites or is it to late? And by stop I mean producers pooling together to file a class action law suite against Porn Hub and such sites that pretend that users are going to the site and uploading content. Do you think it would be a good idea for the FSC to stop with this measure B bull and go after these tube sites? Or is just too late? Thank you

  19. Mr South. Any word on Jules Jordan and his on going legal battle with his ex-employies?

  21. Billy, I have no idea what the legal remedies if any could be gained regarding stopping unauthorized free porn. I am surprised something was not done years ago but the thought of these tube companies standing behind the veil of user-generated content is a joke. Free sites are huge business for those that own them and steal content to grow them so i suppose it is possible that a legal remedy could be gained but that would have a tremendous cost to those brave enough to fight as the courts have not been overly sympathetic up to this point. I don’t have the answer but I wish I did.

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