I am very disappointed Mike South is being so quiet on this issue. Yes, he said sheena should not come back, but he will not call out Stagliano.

Look, Stags creampied a girl who was fucking his male talent. That is a bigger scandal than anything but Mike is dead silent on that.

I really think Mike is not the crusader he claims to be. He will not stand up to guys like Stagliano.

@Jilted

TY People are bitching about her as the problem vs representative of the risks to the performer pool as if she is an isolated incident. It wasn’t a secret that she was doing this last year when people played blind, dumb and ignorant to the situation.

None of us knows what she based her risk assessment on ..smooth talking and kind gestures? Maybe. It definitely wasn’t adequate or effective industry training to protect herself and the industry talent pool.

This situation proves without a doubt that an effective program goes beyond performers alone. It also proves FSC barkers like AVN aren’t gonna do shit about it.

This fallacy the talent pool is some kind of private exclusive pool is bullshit. FSC barkers were promoting visits to stop by Freedom Acres on the way to AVN awards to preview their facilities for production away from LE where non-industry guests would be willing to have sex with performers and appear in content. Kernes is chortling with glee that a military court overturned a conviction for a HIV+ airman who didn’t disclose his status at swinger parties because their expert got info in that it was a greater than 1/500 chance he would infect someone on any given exposure…making transmission UNLIKELY on any given exposure …uhhhhhh hello this guy wasn’t medicated. Yeah I have a problem with folks who are supposed to be protecting the industry co-signing this.

Sheena Shaw is a perfect example of a performer who has no problem putting the entirre pool of performers at a higher risk level, and unfortunately there are scores, if not hundreds of performers who think just like her.

@BT,
,,,,EVERYONE is at the same risk level as the riskiest person in the talent pool. The degrees of seperation, and now that includes the gay industry guys too,,,(as APAC has acknowledged several times), is too small to seperate levels of risk,,, Hooking, escorting, all of those OUTSIDE people are not outsiders,,,they are part of the pool of people that performers have sex with, you cannot discount them when you consider the MEDICAL aspects of the industry,,,those so called outsiders are as much a part of the system as performers.

every performer who worked with Derrik Burts, and the other HIV positives in the last few years got lucky,,,,testing did not prevent a single one of them from contracting the disease, or being exposed to the disease, they simply got lucky, and that is a piss poor medical program for a multi billion dollar industry(LOL yes i laugh too everytime I write that, multi billion lol)

No one cares. The talent doesn’t care about themselves let alone anyone else. They don’t care about what shaw did/is doing or the fact that stags and TJ Cummings is HIV positive or anyone else that may be HIV positive. They don’t care. Remember in their delusional minds they see HIV as being a manageable disease not what people like me who live in the real world see it as a PREVENTABLE one. There is no reason for anyone to contract HIV in this country today. No reason at all unless you are stupid. Same with all the other STDS…

Anyway, I am willing to bet if some producer thought Marc Wallice could sell and he was willing to come back they would not only welcome him with open arms but the talent would all put him on their yes list. #pathetic.

If Sheena Shaw is HIV free today, several months after her relationship with Stagliano ended (my memory is that she started tweeting about it being over back in November), its pretty unlikely an infection is going to show up now. Black balling because of something she did months ago if she is disease free today is about as effective as the governor of New Jersey putting that poor nurse who returned from Africa in a tent on the tarmac even though she tested negative for Ebola virus. If the goal is protection, it accomplishes nothing.

Shaw’s actions, however, speak to the reason that testing alone isn’t enough. She is a very high risk performer; performers who engage in anal sex are at a higher risk of infection than performers who don’t; performers who engage in lots of anal sex are at an even higher risk. She made her name specializing in what can only be called anal stunts – not just lots of cocks up that butt, but huge objects.

Meanwhile, she was in a relationship with an HIV+ guy nicknamed buttman for a reason, and who at one time in his life also engaged in high risk sex acts – its how he got HIV in the first place. So, you have someone who is performing high risk acts on set while secretly dating someone who likes high risk acts and is HIV positive.

She got lucky. But the chance of her being infected and passing it on before it showed up in her tests I have to think was high. That’s when she should’ve been blackballed.

On the other hand, if you blackballed every porn performer who did something stupid and risky to their health in their personal life ……. you wouldn’t have much of a talent pool.

Further more…..

Let’s say Sheena didn’t know (impossible to believe)…

That means willingly Stagliano gave her creampies while she was an active performer, and did not disclose his HIV status to her! Knowing full well she would be fucking male talent the next day!

Whether you believe she knew or she didnt, under both possibilities, one (or both) of these lovers were willing to risk spreading HIV throughout the porn industry. Sheena was working a lot during that time and would have had sex with a significant portion of the male talent pool.

So, in addition to not welcoming back Sheena, why the fuck is Stagliano not on some blacklist. Shouldn’t the male porn dudes be up in arms over their willingness to infect these guys with HIV?

This is so fucked up even for the cesspool of porn valley. I can’t wrap my head around it.

I don’t know how the industry can welcome her back. Think about it… she was doing bareback scenes in the day and having bareback sex with a known HIV positive male in the evening who was also ejaculating inside her… and then having bareback sex with someone else in a scene the next day.

Yeah , she will sell product as the vast majority of consumers are not reading these boards and would have no idea (nor would they likely care anyways, her ass over rides all). But still, the performers should be absolutely PISSED she conducted herself like this in the first place. For her to not be blackballed is just mind bending to see.

PS – to the guy saying they are committing fraud on testing paperwork….. its only fraud if you get caught and most people will think they will never get caught; people commit fraud all the time but don’t think much about it until they get caught. The fact it is legal fraud is not much of a deterrent for performers lying on HIV testing paperwork.

Jilted, when I heard of John (and later Karen) Stagliano getting HIV and later John being prosecuted for “obscenity” I wanted to call them the Fuckedlianos. Lately, though at least John has been more of a Teflonliano as nothing seems to stick to him. I am about as liberal as they come as to what what should be allowed in adult but HIV/AIDS patients penetrating HIV negative performers is one thing I don’t agree with. Now I have to wonder about Karen, her husband fucking around on her (outside of work from accounts I have read), having HIV (reducing her ability to find another husband) and having at least two kids to support (maybe three, I never heard if the last pregnancy survived or not). She is who I have to feel got the raw end of the stick here. I don’t feel sorry (today) for either John — who by all other accounts is actually a decent guy that just likes to fuck around on his wife and if he didn’t have HIV I wouldn’t even comment on here — or especially Sheena who knew what she was getting into fucking known HIV positive men while performing in the industry.

@joeschmoe: I think she had an abortion which appears to be the birth control of choice for the women in the industry.

I also thought she said she was done with the industry, but, of course, like most others who have said that, she is returning.