Comments on: The Issue At Hand Is Simple https://mikesouth.com/reader-mail/the-issue-at-hand-is-simple-6885/ The institute for the advance study of insensitivity and pornography Tue, 04 Jul 2023 11:40:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Third Axis11 https://mikesouth.com/reader-mail/the-issue-at-hand-is-simple-6885/#comment-6729 Thu, 08 Nov 2012 17:57:01 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=6885#comment-6729 Origen01; That is a very good point. Maybe that will also give the Porners time to get their shit together and get Workers Compensation and get rid of Diane Duke and some of the FSC clowns.

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By: origen01 https://mikesouth.com/reader-mail/the-issue-at-hand-is-simple-6885/#comment-6728 Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:56:26 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=6885#comment-6728 In reply to BT.

“Asking the county for a time out before enforcement seems like a reasonable response and the county is likely to give it since they have to figure this out as well. Although, again, it ain’t rocket science. You’ve already got a health inspection process in place and people request a permit in order to make a film. Again, make producers responsible for enforcement and the fine. Require them to submit a copy of the shoot on DVD or electronically and have an inspector fast forward through the footage. ”

Nobody wants to regulate porn. You do realize that the number one reason porn is distributed so freely in this country is because it is so emotionally draining to regulate. Talk to any obscenity investigator and they will tell you two things happen when you are constantly inspecting footage: you will become aroused and/or tolerant towards the material or you will be constantly sickened and generally jaded towards human sexuality. Either way, the individual costs on the investigator are too high for porn footage inspection to be welcomed initiative by regulators.

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By: dodogoodman https://mikesouth.com/reader-mail/the-issue-at-hand-is-simple-6885/#comment-6727 Thu, 08 Nov 2012 14:29:44 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=6885#comment-6727 In reply to BT.

All of these performers are claiming that they will move to Nevada to perform and so will the industry. Won’t Nevada just enact the condom laws statewide that are in effect for the small area of the state where prostitution is legal. Also, isn’t New Hampshire technically the only state where shooting porn is legal. Remember, Nevada despite voting for Obama has a very large and vocal Mormon and senior citizen population.

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By: BT https://mikesouth.com/reader-mail/the-issue-at-hand-is-simple-6885/#comment-6726 Thu, 08 Nov 2012 11:57:13 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=6885#comment-6726 Today, you have two responses about what happens next. First, Larry Flynnt says this won’t change Hustler one bit. They film now in Hawaii, Mexico and the California desert. They’ll do more of that. Others have said they’ll just fly everyone to Nevada for the day. That may work for Flynnt, who has a brand, distribution and a bigger business to fund the expense of getting a crew, talent and equipment into those areas on a regular basis but I have to think that the smaller production houses won’t be able to afford the extra expense unless they can raise their sale prices. Fat chance. On top of that, what I read is that it is not uncommon for porn talent – especially girls – to flake on a shoot. Or for shoots to run over schedule. That’s fine if you can call an agent and get a replacement girl to drive over to a set on short notice. She can’t so easily get on a plane and fly to a shoot on short notice. Run over on a shoot and you’re putting everyone up in a motel and paying change fees to the airlines. And, it presumes that Nevada is going to welcome a sudden influx of porn talent and unregulated economic activity in its state. Nevada, or any other jurisdiction, is reading that porn is a $10 billion business. It’s going to want its piece of the pie. And that leads to additional cost and business regulation. So, unless people who say they want to be respected as legitimate business people decide they want to be outlaws, flying in and out of new locations before anyone finds out, its not a long-term survival strategy.

Second, Diane Duke says she is going to sue on jurisdictional grounds. She says this is a state issue and not a local issue. She does not say that talent are independent contractors; that they know the risks when they take the job; that condoms lead to more STDs and not fewer STDs; that its a violation of her FIrst Amendment rights; or any of the other arguments tweeted.

It may be. I have no idea who determines health regulations in California. It may also be her best strategy. However, it also invites the state to get involved and mandate condom use state wide.

Asking the county for a time out before enforcement seems like a reasonable response and the county is likely to give it since they have to figure this out as well. Although, again, it ain’t rocket science. You’ve already got a health inspection process in place and people request a permit in order to make a film. Again, make producers responsible for enforcement and the fine. Require them to submit a copy of the shoot on DVD or electronically and have an inspector fast forward through the footage.

Their biggest hurdle is the hostile workplace suit that’s going to follow from female health inspectors who are offended by all the porn in the workplace or the health inspector who refuse or burn out on the job.

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By: jilted https://mikesouth.com/reader-mail/the-issue-at-hand-is-simple-6885/#comment-6725 Thu, 08 Nov 2012 01:02:28 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=6885#comment-6725 In reply to jilted.

ANd another HUGE mistake. First they say the industry really cares about perfomrers. Then in their next sentence they say, “We will go underground and make things even worse for performers in you pass this Mealure B” Oh yeah, thats a good campaign slogan. What a bunch of morons, and not to mention the performers they had out their repeating, and tweeting this stuff. Remove gun from holster, aim directly at your own foot, pull the trigger, empty the clip. These guys, especially the lap dog performers out spouting this stuff, believe too many of their own lies, and thats the real problem.

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By: jilted https://mikesouth.com/reader-mail/the-issue-at-hand-is-simple-6885/#comment-6724 Thu, 08 Nov 2012 00:57:05 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=6885#comment-6724 In reply to Nick East.

All of the preaching to the choir, and tweeting are hardly an effective campaign. The industry had the endorsement of the major newspapers, business associations, and even the requblican party, and they still couldn’t wage anything that even resembled an effective campaign. They told everyone that the multi billion dollar industry(lol)would be ruined, but they could not even raise 1 million dollars to fight it. And 1 million is just 1/10th of one percents of 1 billion. The people of LA saw right through the lies. James Lee stated that the porn industry brings 1BILLION dollars LOCALLY, through taxes and ‘other services, . What an effing moron. 1 “BILLION LOCALLY” Really? The average person is smart enough to know that it is NOT safer to have sex with a condom, regardless of how often someone is tested.

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By: Nick East https://mikesouth.com/reader-mail/the-issue-at-hand-is-simple-6885/#comment-6723 Thu, 08 Nov 2012 00:15:36 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=6885#comment-6723 Origen01, please just shut up? Michael Whiteacre slandered me simply due to my position on the matter! Well orchestrated? You obviously DID NOT read the article! Diane Duke told the government to “keep their noses out of our bedrooms”! They are both OUTSIDERS who made the porn industry seem amazingly STUPID! Since I am stuck in the category of porn performer for the REST OF MY LIFE whether I ever perform again or not is just one reason I will continue to try my best to show that not all performers are as stupid as a bag of erasers! I LOVED this article!!!! COMPLETELY ACCURATE!

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By: jimmyd https://mikesouth.com/reader-mail/the-issue-at-hand-is-simple-6885/#comment-6722 Wed, 07 Nov 2012 20:17:33 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=6885#comment-6722 People just don’t get that porn is a parallel universe, an alternate reality, one that happens to intersect with the real world, the real universe, and actual reality. If they understood that, they might just leave us alone to complete our self-destructive quest, with or without rubbers.

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By: BT https://mikesouth.com/reader-mail/the-issue-at-hand-is-simple-6885/#comment-6721 Wed, 07 Nov 2012 20:17:30 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=6885#comment-6721 I don’t work in the porn industry. I’m simply a long-time consumer of porn and an observer of the industry. As an outsider, I’d say the seeds for this loss began about 20 years ago with the first Max Hardcore movies followed by Rob Black giving the middle finger to the authorities. You had an industry that believed that anything can and should be filmed if someone is willing to pay to watch it, no matter how degrading to the performer. Even people who for the most part don’t want to watch naked people get down will tolerate porn if it’s basic sex. When you start going to extremes just because you can go to extremes, you turn stomachs and you get the attention of people who can shut you down. You may still win on the First Amendment argument, but its hard to convince the nurse who pulls a new pair of latex gloves every time she enters a patients room or the kid who wears gloves and a hairnet to make a sandwich at Subway or the janitor who wears gloves to clean a toilet that its sanitary and healthy for a gal to suck a penis after its come out of her butt or have five guys ejaculate in her mouth after each has penetrated her multiple times. At the least, the condom seems like a common sense safety measure.

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By: fightcopytrolls https://mikesouth.com/reader-mail/the-issue-at-hand-is-simple-6885/#comment-6720 Wed, 07 Nov 2012 18:38:46 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=6885#comment-6720 RT @MikeSouth1226: The Issue At Hand Is Simple: I have a lot to write about but this post came across on GFY and was so well said th… …

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