I don’t know what to say about sex parties/casting couches (at least the kind where porn is not being filmed). I hope they do not happen regularly in such a manner that people are being coerced into a free fuck in order to get a scene. I don’t want to restrict whom a porn performer may “date” but if you mean porn chickies are being coerced into fucking porn directors outside of a porn set in order to get a scene I see a big problem. If directors really want to get some poon-tang action with multiple porn chickies each week they need to do what Porno Dan and Matt Williams do and Peter Acworth used to do and get tested for VD then (assuming the tests come back negative) fuck them on camera and pay them for the fucking. I for one would love to fuck a few women in porn (Nica Noelle, Maitresse Madeline, Aaliyah Love and Veruca James come to mind) but if I were a director that type of multiple partner in a short time activity off-set could both make my company look bad and add to the negative PR that Weinfuck, Izzy and Co. use to demonize the adult film industry — especially if I were to do so without the industry VD testing panel (even with the VD test I could still be accused of attempting to force porn chickies to fuck me first in exchange for a scene whether that was actually a consideration between us or not). Admittedly if Nica Noelle and three other porn chickies were to jointly attempt to seduce me the first time I meet them (I know this is fantasy land but let’s assume it is not for a moment) they would probably be able to do so easily which would make me a poor PR example for the industry even coercion was not going on.

Unfortunately that is true, Lurk.

Also, the day you find a unicorn please take a picture and send it to me care of Mike. I promise not to go hunting and try to kill and eat it. If Aaliyah Love (or the cute red-headed Wendy’s commercial chick) is riding the unicorn please have her pose naked on the unicorn and send the pictures to Larry Flynt at Hustler. 🙂

@mharris

The fact is the industry has lots of shoulds and oughts and the only standards they’re concerned with is the ones they are trying to skirt to cover their asses. Pretty ironic if you ask me that an Industy that thrives on anal sex goes to such lengths to cover their own asses in the pursuit of fresh asses to plunder.

@mharris

If the industry acted ‘professionally’ and created ‘effective’ self-regulation they wouldn’t be worrying about Hall, Weinstein or AHF ….they didn’t so what started in 2004 as a notice to performers on OSHA’s site has become Measure B, a proposed statewide ACT and soon to be finalized addition of 5193.1 to Title 8, Div 1, Chp 4, Subchapter 7 General Industry Safety Orders, Article 109 Hazardous Substances and Processes.

Regulation by definition is a rule or directive AND maintained by an authority. FSC claims the industry is self-regulating as they proclaim their powerlessness and lack of authority to maintain their rules and/or directives. They claim their rules work but offer no proof as they blame situations and events on those who didn’t follow the rules.

In other words they create ruling directives and claim the authority to maintain they work. About as effective as relying on a unicorn for your meat and mead.

Lurk, I agree that the chapped dick excuse should not fly. I disagree on forcing condoms on any company but Carmex will not cure Syphilis (or Herpes for that matter but at least that won’t kill you). I don’t know the best way to educate on that matter but at least the old AIM videos were a good start. The APAC video is piss poor in that regard, it essentially warns that a person can die from VD but doesn’t explain the signs and symptoms of the different VDs. Here in MI comprehensive sex education is required in the freshman year health education class that most students are required to take by most districts (those schools without health classes must meet the standard some other way). However, parents can exclude their teen-agers from sex-ed coursework which needs to change. That is better than some states (sorry Mike but I have to say this is mainly in the Deep South) which either require abstinence only or abstinence based education with minimal actual sex-ed, many don’t even require that what sex-ed is taught is factually based. A few states don’t require any sex-ed at all (which is better than essentially abstinence preaching combined with “extra-marital sex will kill you and send you to Hell” by the local clergy as happens in some states but far from ideal). Between parents excluding their children from sex-ed classes, required abstinence based laws and no sex-ed at all a lot of our porn performers aren’t receiving the fact-based sex-ed they need to function adequately in the industry or in life. I would like to see the industry deal with this, the AIM video was a good place to start but I would like to even see that improved upon. Maybe an internet-based factual certification program can be created where the agents require their clients to read/view the material and pass a computer-administered exam before performing. I suspect one of the university medical schools in CA would love to assist in such a program. Maybe the people running the industry and the agents just don’t realize that some states either don’t require sex-ed at all or botch the job for political reasons and this program can be created with their assistance.

I apologize for putting words in your mouth, then Sabrina. I do agree that lack of professionalism is putting the industry at grave risk as we are seeing with the forced condom brigade headed by Michael Weinstein and Izzy Hall. However, using that lack of professionalism as an excuse is just their way to get what they want — their real reason is the Christian morality they wish to force on us as Izzy is a Baptist preacher seeing this as a way to “clean up the morality in CA” and Weinstein is just along for the ride as he is pissed about having to pay to treat one or two performers that somehow got HIV and sees this as both payback and a money-saving move for his “charity” — even though he doesn’t know how/where these people actually caught HIV. Considering one of the main tenets of Christianity is that if a person accepts Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour all is forgiven but also that Christians are not supposed to force their views on others this strongly, in the latter regard Izzy needs to ponder his religious beliefs regarding the adult industry more thoroughly.

The lack of professionalism in adult film could cause a VD outbreak or other injury, however as Princess Donna’s lack of care causing a performer’s breast implant to puncture or explode shows — I don’t know what kind of drugs she was on that day but (rhetorically) I want some, it has to be an experience to be so zonked out that as a director you allow activity that punctures a breast implant, in decades of daily drinking I have never been so impaired that I would allow that to happen in my care. Unfortunately, those in the industry need to realize that what they do affects everyone else in the biz. Activities that have a high chance of causing severe injury need to be curtailed (note that does not mean BDSM as a whole needs to stop, as a BDSM person myself I know it can be done with relative safety as long as some common sense and care is used — even heavy caning and suspension). Performers also in the near term also need to pick between performing and escorting both to protect health/safety and to keep the morality crusade at bay, they will not be able to continue to do both without jeopardizing the industry politically (I hope things change so that is not necessary in the future). People in the industry need to think about PR value in everything they do on set, that is unfortunate but with Izzy and Co. coming at porn on one side and the government on the other what people do now may determine whether porn continues to be produced legally in the US or not. Not getting into fist fights with your girlfriend (whether in actuality or just in appearance) and getting arrested at the AVN convention would also help in this regard (this one’s aimed at Clover in particular, that isn’t his first arrest for beating his girlfriends either).

@SabrinaDeep

I see condoms like training wheels on a bike. FSC barkers shout that everyone knows how to ride a bike and ought to be able to without the benefit of training wheels. This is fine for folks who have the experience and ability to know better than to accept a carmex on the dick excuse that turns out to be syphillis but not so good when this corner spill can take out hundreds or even thousands of much needed paychecks.

The honor code isn’t working nor is FSC PASS because there is no systemic industry education teaching newbies and holding old timers accountable. For company’s that show their performers can ride a bike there should be a provision to allow the training wheels to come off.

@mharris127

I have always clearly stated from the beginning my position about enforced condoms: it’s wrong and it won’t fix a thing (talents should be able to wear condoms though if they decided to do so). To the contrary it is going to lower the guard on testing very soon. I am also saying, though, that with the lack of professionalism and unity of intents that this industry shows, other people and organizations are going to make the rules for us, one of which seems to be the condom one for now, and us and only us are to blame. If you mess up, somebody gotta clean your mess and sometimes not the way you like it. Hug you good night.

Sabrina, I agree that rectal and throat swabs should be performed every 14 or 30 days along with the blood test (rectal/throat swabs aren’t that hard to do and should not be painful at least to those girls and trannies that take dick up the ass with any regularity). It would also be nice if it cost $71 for testing rather than our $200 plus $35 shipping fee but since in Spain the testing agencies are likely government-run (assuming they are like most of Europe) rather than for-profit I suspect that won’t be happening here anytime soon.

I am also glad you found a way to keep to your principles and perform in adult film even if it did require you doing so in Spain. Maybe someday we will have enough respect for ourselves here in the US where you could come home and perform regularly. We may disagree with some things but as with Jilted I do respect you and consider your positions on adult industry matters. I disagree with required condoms, not professionalism and certainly not lacking common sense like Princess Donna allowing activities that popped a breast implant (notice she isn’t working for Kink anymore, could this be the reason why her contract wasn’t renewed recently — I bet that popped tit implant cost Kink’s insurer at least $15K to fix) and (IIRC) Marty allowing a bleeding dick to be shoved up a woman’s pussy, IMO a condom would not be enough protection for that one but at least it would have shown some deference to the issue at hand. Don’t get me wrong, I like Kink and Marty’s incident might have been due to lack of company policy on the matter (as the participants supposedly consented to the scene continuing and policy and training did not clarify what should be done in that situation) but everyone including Donna knows you don’t do things that pop tit implants on a porn set, you don’t need a company policy for that!

@rawalex

To be fair I kinda glossed over “when you take levels and types of sexual activity into consideration” and headed for my pet peeve with the testing gate.

Still think my argument stands if monogamy and celibacy are dropped from the equation. Finding someone willing to perform with the agreed impressive 200 annual partners is much easier via escort ads than the one off experimental visits to fetish clubs or volunteer Sunday school teachers.

Not only does porn recruit commercial sex workers (classed the same as MSM for risk purposes) but the industry makes no secret of of agents and some producers banking fees for booking gigs with those rich middle eastern guys who demand unsafe sex. Which makes it problematic to point the blame there and ignore reality of how that affects pals, parties, and casting couches off-set and behind the scenes. That seems as logical as pretending restaurants are limited to the dining room.

The day porn bans escorting performers and requires testing for pals, parties and casting couches before the fact is the day I’ll get on board with your argument that STDs especially HIV are coming from outside. Till then as your polar opposite on this the lack of disagreeable in the disagreement is appreciated more than I can say.