Comments on: More Girls Come Forward On James Deen https://mikesouth.com/reader-mail/more-girls-come-forward-on-james-deen-12937/ The institute for the advance study of insensitivity and pornography Thu, 06 Jul 2023 09:08:41 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Ivy https://mikesouth.com/reader-mail/more-girls-come-forward-on-james-deen-12937/#comment-27788 Thu, 03 Dec 2015 17:26:57 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=12937#comment-27788 In reply to LurkingReader.

@lurkingreader thanks for writing that. I wanted to say something, but couldn’t figure out what to say. I totally agree with you.

Joanna was on a radio show explaining her feelings about it. Definitely worth a listen for anyone who is interested.

http://jezebel.com/joanna-angel-details-ex-boyfriend-james-deens-alleged-a-1745916019

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By: LurkingReader https://mikesouth.com/reader-mail/more-girls-come-forward-on-james-deen-12937/#comment-27787 Thu, 03 Dec 2015 11:23:48 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=12937#comment-27787 In reply to BT.

This doesn’t come across as a vindictive ex or a PR stunt.

From the start I got the impression that Stoya was saying enough is enough for a long time. Those tweets were her line in the sand after one too many ”I mean it this time’ …’yeah okay whatever’ deals.

While Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned is true it would be a mistake to assume her fury is at Deen. She’s been there and done that more times than I can count in the past two years. This fury is aimed at at any and everyone who asked her suck it up just once more for the good of the team.

I think this has become a PR nightmare that looks like a circus sans program. Who can even count how many rings are active or what going on with all ‘rapid transit’ buses running over Deen converging under the media big top with the venders hawking hot peanuts and everyone running amuck?

Can lawyers or hospital residents be overworked? They knew what they getting into before grad school? That’s the ‘can sex workers be raped’ ring.

The ‘me too’ ring has enough going on that it could fill ten big tops .. Me too…exes, performers, content, off set, yikes!

Kaydens blog excerpts stand out in the FUBAR ring. The logic is on par with the press release that announced and ended Mike Kulich campaign for a FSC board position. To his credit he might have killed two birds with one stone if he could have unloaded his warehouse of compilations to compensate performers for the cost of testing.

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By: Billy https://mikesouth.com/reader-mail/more-girls-come-forward-on-james-deen-12937/#comment-27782 Thu, 03 Dec 2015 02:56:58 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=12937#comment-27782 google “EVILANGEL STOYA AND JAMES DEEN BONDAGE” These two had a weird relationship.

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By: BT https://mikesouth.com/reader-mail/more-girls-come-forward-on-james-deen-12937/#comment-27781 Thu, 03 Dec 2015 00:42:30 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=12937#comment-27781 In reply to MikeSouth.

To me, the problem with the argument that its a publicity stunt or a vindictive ex-girlfriend is that it doesn’t explain Joanna Angel or other performers expressing either their support of Stoya or sharing their own stories. Moreover, it doesn’t explain Doc Johnson, Kink and Evil Angel dropping Deen like a hot potato without even the chance to explain himself. The rapidity of their actions speaks volumes. (Plus, while you know her, and I don’t have a clue, I’ve never been as impressed with Kayden based on her writing as others).

Of course, per my earlier post, if this really is the act of a vindictive ex, James Deen has one heck of a lawsuit he can file against Stoya, any other porn chick who has spoken out against him, and perhaps even against production companies and Doc Johnson.

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By: LurkingReader https://mikesouth.com/reader-mail/more-girls-come-forward-on-james-deen-12937/#comment-27780 Thu, 03 Dec 2015 00:27:56 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=12937#comment-27780 In reply to MikeSouth.

I think Kayden shot herself in the foot here and if Stoya lets this stand it’s going to harm her goal of enough is enough how many times has the office said were gonna limit projects to a max crisis point of 80 hour weeks and here we are at 90 again?

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By: MikeSouth https://mikesouth.com/reader-mail/more-girls-come-forward-on-james-deen-12937/#comment-27776 Wed, 02 Dec 2015 19:00:13 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=12937#comment-27776 In reply to BT.

I have to agree there Kaydens logic totally reeks and it gives the impression that the whole thing may have started as a PR stunt. If the scene is really a poor seller which I do believe then the smart thing to do would be to yank it…

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By: BT https://mikesouth.com/reader-mail/more-girls-come-forward-on-james-deen-12937/#comment-27775 Wed, 02 Dec 2015 18:32:33 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=12937#comment-27775 In reply to Billy.

I generally don’t make personal comments, but this could be the stupidest post I’ve ever read on MikeSouth.com.

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By: lastnot https://mikesouth.com/reader-mail/more-girls-come-forward-on-james-deen-12937/#comment-27773 Wed, 02 Dec 2015 15:22:11 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=12937#comment-27773 For what it’s worth, it looks like xoxojoannaangel.com and burningangel.com have tried to remove most of the posts related to Deen. Deleting content is a big deal for her business.

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By: Ivy https://mikesouth.com/reader-mail/more-girls-come-forward-on-james-deen-12937/#comment-27765 Wed, 02 Dec 2015 07:20:49 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=12937#comment-27765 In reply to Ivy.

@ivy Just to add:
http://jezebel.com/kayden-kross-explains-why-james-deen-is-currently-featu-1745588198

“While we made the decision back then not to hire him going forward, we can’t undo the fact that he is featured in some of the scenes that Stoya directed during their relationship. We also can’t undo the fact that some of our licensors have shot James in their own projects. He is an able and popular performer. Stoya considered not releasing any of the content that she owned that featured James, but it was content that, if taken away from the whole, would have harmed the project that is her directorial debut.”

Full content of Kayden Kross’s blog can be found here, which addresses the situation:
http://unkrossed.com/old-shit/258-istandwithstoya

“This project will always belong to Stoya regardless of his actions. There are scenes that he also cashed checks for that Stoya has never released because she, as a woman, can’t stomach them. This is done solely at her discretion though. We have also given our licensors the option to remove scenes featuring him or continue to run them on TRENCHCOATx, but we extend the same right to them that we have protected for ourselves. The most recent scene featured on TRENCHCOATx does feature James. Our scheduling is slated months in advance and it’s admittedly bad timing that it happened to go live now, but our licensor stands behind it, and so we do too. This is also a movie filmed back in 2013, and also a scene that, if deleted, will ruin the project as a whole.”

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By: Ivy https://mikesouth.com/reader-mail/more-girls-come-forward-on-james-deen-12937/#comment-27764 Wed, 02 Dec 2015 07:10:40 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=12937#comment-27764 In reply to Billy.

@billy Your source is bad, and what you posted is bad, and you should feel bad. The justification “It’s true because I said so”, is not proof of anything. In the entire article you posted, there is not one single word written that can be taken as fact. What you shared with us is an opinion article.
Ok? Opinion does not equal fact. The author is clearly able to voice his opinion, but that doesn’t make it right.
You can believe Stoya is lying about all of this, but that would be your opinion, and that doesn’t mean that opinion is a fact. Ok thanks for sharing and spreading the myth that Stoya is a bad person and a liar, I am sure she is heartbroken right now.

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