Is johnny castle still being pimped to gay men by david forest.

I suspect Peter is doing well financially. He has been hiring for more than two years now from what I have read, in that time Kink has went from about 100 to 140 employees. If Peter were losing money on Kink he would not be hiring for new positions.

Whether the Armory is worth more as a dungeon or as office space I cannot comment knowingly about. I do know that Peter borrowed a significant amount of money to buy the Armory (the total price was about $14 million) and a change of use could cause the financial institution holding to accelerate the loan principal, making it due immediately. Peter is rich but he might not have $10 million in cash available to pay the then accelerated loan off if he attempts to change the permitted use from film production to office space (office space is more risky as he cannot guarantee being able to lease the space out, it is a reasonable assumption that if it remains film production that the payments will be made from operating revenues at least for the next few years).

If Peter does move to Nevada since the Armory is its own corporation so he could theoretically let the bank eat the loan without much penalty to his other businesses or to himself.

Absolutely, but the problem is no one is buying that porn is just going to pick up and move to Nevada with no one questioning the regulation factors.

So, then it becomes: do you want to be regulated in CA or do you want to be regulated in NV? IMO, I think the self-regulation days are over.

Most people don’t realize that “las vegas” the city is only the downtown area and everything up to the “worlds largest souvenir stand” at East Sahara. The strip, the industrial area where all the strip clubs and adult book stores are, the airport… all that stuff ISN’T in the City of Las Vegas and as a result, the city doesn’t hold any power over it at all. The City of Las Vegas can jump up and down and stamp it’s feet, but it’s unlikely that Kink would have ended up in the actual city limits to start with.

Second, being in “Vegas” doesn’t mean being in vagas, It’s the same as the brothels, none of which are IN Vegas, but many exist to serve Vegas. Kink could very easily locate just outside the county and be even one step further away from the NIMBY types. Nevada is very big, that is for sure.

I do agree however that the condom laws and fines are perhaps an excuse for Kink getting away from a building that they cannot truly support anymore in San Fran. Simply put, it’s worth way more as offices than it is as a dungeon (it’s worth more as a flat empty piece of land for that matter). They can move to Nevada where there is a near endless amount of cheap real estate to be had, and they can live off the income from selling the armory for many years to come.

@mikestabile

Yes I realize porn is shot in all fifty states which is why I was a bit confounded that Douglas relied on media to source migration. I also realize that absence of enforcement doesn’t negate the applicability of OSHA in those fifty states.

The biggest mystery to me is why the industry is still using arguments their practices directly refute. 17,500 scenes no HIV transmission vs five daily diagnosis in LA Cty…sounds good if you don’t know the scene data includes gay/condom and is limited to HIV.

@mikestabile @dodogoodman –
I think this is where the issue gets confused… So, you’re going to leave CA because of a condom mandate and move to a state that has legal brothels that are fully regulated (including testing and condoms) and expect to just walk in with no regulations whatsoever and rely on protection from the first amendment, which hasn’t seemed to help with regulations in CA?
Plus, there’s alot of talk currently about the sex worker licensing requirements in Nevada.
Why not just stay in California?

It doesn’t make any sense? I have a hard time understanding how Nevada is fully accepting of legal prostitution with strict regulations, but the porn industry wouldn’t be held to the same standards in protecting the workforce and public-at-large?

To be honest, I think the best thing Ackworth could do would be to rent out the Armory as office space… sit back while making a shitload of money and cut his losses.

Is Nick Steele actually Nicholas Steele, former director for Adam and Eve (Nick is a nickname for Nicholas)? I have been wondering where he ended up.

The brothels have strict guidelines as far a condoms and STD testing and they are in a tiny, tiny area of the state. You don’t think that porn companies would be subject to the same guidelines as brothels if they made their way to Las Vegas and opened up studios? While it’s true that porn has been shot in Vegas for years, it’s gone unpublicized and unnoticed, I think big name companies making big announcements of bringing a large scale productions would change that.

Also, wouldn’t these companies have to deal with the unions, who are king in Las Vegas?