I still think he has the government behind him. The reason being is that COYOTE still exists, right? Every time I have read about a union for adult workers I instantly think “Well, that’s easy. Hire non-union. It will be cheaper. Who would join an organization that would put them out of work if the studios don’t hire those in the union?” There isn’t a law stating that producers can only work with those involved in the UAWA. A union really only works if there isn’t another option. I’ve watched unions lose their jobs or those asking for unions lose their jobs to the lowest bidder. I’ve also watched businesses close down totally. Otherwise, those in the union will probably have trouble finding work. I think Rob knows that you cannot count on others doing the right thing.

I don’t think Rob will go out and try to have this without people being forced into it. He doesn’t seem like the type to rest his whole idea on “if” the talent would join his union. As it sits now it isn’t a union, but I’m sure once lawyers fine tune it then it could be. Even if it isn’t a union, if the government says that to work in adult you have to go through them or another approved organization then it can be whatever it wants to be. There is probably a lot that we aren’t being informed of.

Right now they really can’t enforce much because they have to enforce laws between each producer, studio, or director. Rob could be giving them a way to cover it all and for those who do it on the outskirts it means fines or jail.

Personally, I feel that if he can pull off what he says he can and have the money to do it then it would be quite a step towards the improvement of safety among workers. It looks like condoms will happen so fighting that is a moot point at this stage in the game. Things like healthcare and a watchdog would be awesome because if people had to be affiliated with the UAWA to shoot pornography then things like skeezy shoots in hotel rooms would vanish. Amateur pornography would almost be a crime even though it already is minus two states. That means more for the mainstream adult industry if it can be enforced. I just read a story about amateur pornographers that don’t adhere to 2257 taking money away from the industry. Syph and Hep are an embarrassment to the business and things like that will just hold it back. The government knows all of this too.

I think it is going to be very interesting to see how everything turns out. Regardless of the outcome, we will probably be surprised.
Rachel

I don’t think Rob is going to run the UAWA. He may own it or whatever, but I am assuming he will hire all of the people using the money given to him to get what he wants.

At this point I don’t doubt he’ll get what he wants.

The only way I see this working is if the law states that they must go with what the UAWA says. I think that is his goal. Otherwise, it doesn’t make sense.

I know what you mean about unions. Technically, this couldn’t be a union. You are correct. It would be more like an organization, but what if laws said you had to go through them? That could be his motivation. I’m not going to say I know the answer because that would be a logically fallacy that assumes I know everything. 😉 However, you are right that this isn’t a union.

Where does the money come from? Well one thing is for sure, if it comes from any government source there will be very tight strings attached. But I dont really see any government source handing money to Rob Black once they vette him fully.

Unions are not owned, and their directors are ELECTED by the membership.

But for Rob to achieve any of these goals he is going to have to work hand in hand with government regulators, OSHA, DIR,and Health Departments, and AHF.

And arent there laws that prevent a convicted felon from being an officer in a union? That is why this is not going to be a real union. Rob want to say union, and act like a union, but unions need members to survive, and the transient nature of the industy just wont support that.

You will notice that Rob has NEVER said this is going to be a true union. The fact that he said there would be no dues for the members is the first clue. It was funny yesterday when he talked about suing the brick and mortar adult shops that show porn movies in their peep shows, as if this was going to generate real income, except the UAWA has no standing to sue on behalf of any company. Rob can sue regarding his own material, but the UAWA cannot sue on behalf of any old company they choose.

Rob claims to have played Derek like a banjo, except Rob doesnt know how to play this game at this level, with OSHA, AHF, County Health, Rob is stricty amatuer hour. And then Rob says that Labcorp doesnt test for hepatitis, well Rob, Labcorp does about 15 to 20 THOUSAND hep tests EVERY SINGLE DAY. When you have someone like this, with such a fundamental misunderstanding of how things work in the real world, not the porn world, then success is not likely.

But bakd to the main question, and I know rob will read this, When did you first know of Alex’s hepatitis status. was it yesterday, two days ago, a week ago, ten days ago? A simple date will suffice.

Cpan, what do you think the odds are that he will ever give a direct answer to that question? I predict he will hoot an holler, do his schtick, but never answer, because either he is bullshiting about giving the info to Lisa Ann, or he withheld information about a hep c positive performer in order to play his little game, and let others get exposed in the meantime.

And when Weinstien heres Rob using the word faggot, he will come up with his own solution to fix Rob.

I actually choose neither solution. Follow with me, jilted… Lisa Ann realizes Derek is letting an actor work knowing he has Hep C. She opens the case wide open and is expecting Derek to retaliate. Rob steps in and takes the heat for her, daring Derek to confront him at the same time. Kinda like throwing yourself in front of the bear to protect your child from harm, eh?

What if Rob will own the UAWA and the government backs it? I don’t think Rob is smart enough to run a union by himself, but I’m sure he is smart enough to hire lawyers to do that for him. Rob said today that he lost his fortune. He has to benefit by this somehow. There is obviously a selfish claim in this instance. However, if he can pull off what he says he will then it would be pretty fucking cool.

Inspectors on sets are probably a good thing. If people are performing with Hep-C then what else are they doing? That’s somewhat common sense at this point. Weinstein is right there.

Now, where does the money come from? That’s the magic question, right?

Rob also spoke about the need for inpsectors on sets, which is part of measue b, and if you recall several months ago the industry was claiming that AHF was trying to set themselves up to get those government contracts. Of course Rob is working with AHF, but AHF is not stupid. Just like they used Shelley Lubben, when they are done with Rob they will cast him aside like yesterday’s garbage.
Weinstein will not put up with Robs antics, especially calling people faggots. Weinstien has an agenda, of course, and to him the ends justify the means, even if that means using Shelley Lubben or Rob Black. Look for AHF to file more DIR complaints against the agents, with the help of Rob.

And for the record Cpan, I very rarely deal in theories, and I never ask a question I dont already know the answer to. Neither does Weinstein.