Comments on: Just seems wrong… https://mikesouth.com/https-mikesouth-com/just-seems-wrong-2162/ The institute for the advance study of insensitivity and pornography Tue, 04 Jul 2023 14:57:30 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: derrick https://mikesouth.com/https-mikesouth-com/just-seems-wrong-2162/#comment-767 Thu, 03 Jul 2008 23:04:03 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/uncategorized/just-seems-wrong-2162/#comment-767 Darrah, I don’t know if Max Hardcore is innocent or not. It’s quite possible that he did brake community standards, but thats not the point. The point is that _any_ kind of obscenity law at all ought to be unconstitutional. What is obsene or not is absolutely subjective, and just because a majority of the people in your state thinks that something is obscene doesn’t make it so. Furthermore even if something could objectively be classified as obscene that doesn’t make it right to ban it. Freedom of speech and obscenity laws are simply not compatible. As distasteful as you might find his movies, as long as the people acting in them are doing so consensually he has done nothing wrong.

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By: tony https://mikesouth.com/https-mikesouth-com/just-seems-wrong-2162/#comment-651 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 21:28:10 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/uncategorized/just-seems-wrong-2162/#comment-651 yep he is salt of the earth
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By: Darrah https://mikesouth.com/https-mikesouth-com/just-seems-wrong-2162/#comment-648 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 20:18:28 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/uncategorized/just-seems-wrong-2162/#comment-648 Grantsinmypants, Max Hardcore is an innocent man? He’s a sexual deviant. He and others like him give a bad name to porn. I wouldn’t call what he does porn. I’ve said before I’m all for hardcore, extreme, kinky rough sex. But what he does goes way above and beyond that and he knows it. He knew this day was coming and he has no one else to blame but himself. We don’t live in a communist country where the government dictates our every day lives. But there are laws set for a reason.

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By: gonzo https://mikesouth.com/https-mikesouth-com/just-seems-wrong-2162/#comment-641 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:54:26 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/uncategorized/just-seems-wrong-2162/#comment-641 Personal preference.
How much are you sending for his support campaign?

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By: Grantsinmypants https://mikesouth.com/https-mikesouth-com/just-seems-wrong-2162/#comment-638 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:13:27 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/uncategorized/just-seems-wrong-2162/#comment-638 Gonzo,

Maybe, but you’re still jumping through all kinds of hoops to explain to me why Paul Little is so much worse than anyone else with the words “teen” or “BDSM” in their domain name. I don’t know, the guy may be a dick. His stuff might be more over the top than anything else out there, but the departure is a small matter of degree compared to the degree of punishment he’s received.

The rest of you guys suffer the scorn for society at large, you don’t go to prison. The last thing Little needs is to have other people in the industry back away from him like he’s so radically different. He may be different, just not radically so.

Sure, his tactics might have been stupid. His content may have crossed a line. He may value money out of all proportion to it’s function, but why wasn’t the industry screaming those things before the Feds got him in their crosshairs? Why disown him now?

Self-preservation is a powerful instinct, but it’s just an instinct. The real means of self-preservation is a concious, principled committment to individual rights and a government afraid of it’s citizens.

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By: gonzo https://mikesouth.com/https-mikesouth-com/just-seems-wrong-2162/#comment-636 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:25:49 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/uncategorized/just-seems-wrong-2162/#comment-636 Grant – Anyone that knows me will tell you . . . “I Aint Skeert”. I know the difference between right and wrong. And that allows me to sleep damn fine at night and walk around bulletproof and 10 feet tall.

Im thinking of getting a cowboy hat to walkaround in San Fransisco as a spoof and call myself Max GonZo.

Consideing I know the place will have a Fed or 2 sniffing around . . . does that sound to you like a person thats scared?

I work for the worlds largest VOD company, Ive been online with my first domzin since 93 and I shoot nekkids like Mike South does. [Of course Im not a 2 time AVN winner]. Mike will tell you sitting in the corner and keeping my mouth shut isnt my style and most of the scammers in this business hate me for it.

Ill remind you that this is the good ole USA and I have a right to say Paul Little.

Do you think he does this for the glamour?

Hes in it for the mon-ay and right now hes cashing it for all its worth being gilb. He and Joe Francis have the same problem. They dont know when to shut the fuck up.

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By: Grantsinmypants https://mikesouth.com/https-mikesouth-com/just-seems-wrong-2162/#comment-634 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:22:47 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/uncategorized/just-seems-wrong-2162/#comment-634 >>>>Well if you ever want anyone to help you in life, you should help others around you because you might need help in the future. We can’t go on with life being selfish bastards.

So we should only help others because it’s in our long-term self interest? Sounds pretty selfish to me.

Also, don’t misconstrue my opposition to this particular government policy as my oppostion to government as such. I’m not an anarchist.

Gonzo,

I understand you’re scared. You have a right to be; what the government does to porn is obscene. But you’re never going to be free from tyranny by convincing yourself that your fear is acceptable. Don’t throw an innocent man under the bus just to spare yourself an extremely unpleasant thought: that our government is out of control. That’s the type of evasive, fantastic thinking I was writing about in my first post. And, ironically, it’s the reason why a government of the people, by the people, and for the people has become the people’s worst enemy.

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By: gonzo https://mikesouth.com/https-mikesouth-com/just-seems-wrong-2162/#comment-632 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 03:21:59 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/uncategorized/just-seems-wrong-2162/#comment-632 4. We sell fantasy. The problem is most people in this busuness have allowed their greed to cloud what they know isthe fundamental difference between right and wrong.

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By: Darrah https://mikesouth.com/https-mikesouth-com/just-seems-wrong-2162/#comment-631 Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:01:57 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/uncategorized/just-seems-wrong-2162/#comment-631 >>> Max wouldn’t help anyone else in the industry unless he got something in return? And this is bad because…?

Well if you ever want anyone to help you in life, you should help others around you because you might need help in the future. We can’t go on with life being selfish bastards.

>>>> Don’t blame the victim. If you want to condemn Max (as you should, his pedophelia and love of violence deserve it), do so. But don’t blame the government’s actions – it’s refusal to distinguish between fantasy and reality – on him.

My comment came as anti victim and anti government? I get heat on this site and other sites for labeling people as victims and saying we should feel bad when something horrible happens to them. And do you know how much heat and hatred I get on non-porn sites when I defend porn stars while others say they should all die and rot in hell?

And as for the government, we need laws. If there weren’t any laws, havoc would run through the streets. Some laws are worse and ridiculous than others. That’s why we have elections where we can vote in or throw out certain lawmakers.

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By: Grantsinmypants https://mikesouth.com/https-mikesouth-com/just-seems-wrong-2162/#comment-630 Sun, 08 Jun 2008 19:01:22 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/uncategorized/just-seems-wrong-2162/#comment-630 Darrah,

Max wouldn’t help anyone else in the industry unless he got something in return? And this is bad because…?

Why is it moral to serve the happiness of others, but not your own? If enjoyment is a value, why is it moral when experienced by others, but immoral when experienced by you? If the sensation of eating a cake is a value, why is it an immoral indulgence in your stomach, but a moral goal for you to achieve in the stomach of others? Why is it immoral for you to desire, but moral for others to do so? Why is it immoral to produce a value and keep it, but moral to give it away? And if it is not moral for you to keep a value, why is it moral for others to accept it? If you are selfless and virtuous when you give it, are they not selfish and vicious when they take it?

Don’t blame the victim. If you want to condemn Max (as you should, his pedophelia and love of violence deserve it), do so. But don’t blame the government’s actions – it’s refusal to distinguish between fantasy and reality – on him.

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