I’m just going to leave this here…
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/11/politics/gop-platform-republican-convention-internet-pornography/index.html

he’s full of shit, and proves it almost every time he opens his mouth.

Donald may be a pretty good business man. He is at least very good at structuring deals to his benefit, leaving behind a string of business failures with his name on it but without his money on the table anymore. His foreign policy seems to be “fuck you”, his immigration poilcy seems to be “fuck you”, and I can’t imagine him being able to work with congress in any manner to get anything done. Rather, I suspect he would piss each and every one of them off, trying to subtly expose something bad about them, and have the whole shitball come back in his face.

It might be fun to watch, but when you consider that the triangular table has Putin and Xi sitting at it and they are just waiting for the US side to be a little more distracted to take advantage and expand their reach some more. Trump’s reaction to that could very well be the sort of “fuck you” that you can’t take back, namely a version of WW3.

Not into it.

Hillary is dishonest, that’s clear. She’s also not stupid enough to rock the boat too hard. She’s a bad choice, but the other choice is, well, scary has hell!

@Toby

My bad… was still digesting a myriad of different stats re overturned exec orders. thank you for the reference, given the number of people who still question Bush re Middle East it seems I’m not the only one concerned about presidential overreach with either proposed candidate coming into office.

@Toby

My bad… was still digesting a myriad of stats for courts overturning orders. Thank you

As I stated when I posted them, the number for each president is the total number of executive orders issued divided by the years in office. That’s explained on the web page too. It’s not difficult to understand at all.

@Toby

Obama Exec orders & FOIA are related because he used exec powers to dismantle FOIA. I’m not picking on him just pointing out why intended & subsequent checks/balances to government aren’t reassuring to me as a citizen…. also saying that blocking the check\balance of the people is a bigger threat than any prior or future president to US governance

Thanks for source…the numbers are expressed as percentage without a reference to what they are compared to…. so no way to understand them is all.

Source is a presidency sub domain on the UC Santa Barbara web site, presidency.ucsb.edu/data/orders.php
I’m not sure what difference having the source will make, the numbers are what they are. Bottom line, Obama has issued fewer executive orders than all four of his immediate predecessors, although he may come close to, or just pass, Bush43 by the end of his term.

I missed where you switched points, thought the Executive Orders and FOIA comments were related.

@Toby

You gotta know I love stats & facts but cant do anything with the numbers you gave without a source or reference…anyway my comment wasn’t a comparison; it was my opinion gov office holders are using their offices to nullify the check/balance of the PEOPLE by withholding information from the PEOPLE. The executive orders as written are available at WhiteHouse.gov. Not sure but expect National Archives has the 13,488 exec orders that came before Obama’s time.

FOIA comes in because all the advisory councils, committees etc funded by our tax money answer directly to the president who cherry picks information to release and used executive privilege to shield everything else as if releasing it would impact national security. Look up a guy named MOSS from the 50’s who was instrumental in creating FOIA…and the intent behind FOIA.

SPOILER ALERT: Moss was a Democrat, the intent was to prevent a Republican president from pursuing things they were concerned about away from the eyes of the PEOPLE. UniParty fits well for the Washington Elite cuz it doesn’t matter if (D) or (R) accompanies their name.

Just for comparison sake let take a look at how many executive orders were issued by other recent presidents. In orders per year in office…
R. Reagan – 47.6
G.H.W. Bush – 47.1
B. Clinton – 45.1
G.W. Bush – 33.4
B. Obama – 32.61 (through 6/20/2016)

It took me all of about 3 minutes to find a list of all 242 of Obama’s Executive Orders on the Internet. Not sure why FOIA applies.