Comments on: The New Condom Law, What Will It mean? https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/the-new-condom-law-what-will-it-mean-5726/ The institute for the advance study of insensitivity and pornography Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:16:23 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: richard373 https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/the-new-condom-law-what-will-it-mean-5726/#comment-5662 Wed, 25 Jan 2012 17:16:23 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=5726#comment-5662 LA Adult film companies Relocating to Nevada? If So AHF Vows to Haunt Them There

–on the web

from http://www.latimes.com – Threats by porn firms to leave California after the L.A. City Council voted to mandate condom use in porn films could be difficult because such filming is legal in just two states — California and New Hampshire.

A ruling by the California Supreme Court effectively legalized the making of adult films in a landmark 1988 case, which came just as VCRs allowed people to watch explicit movies at home.

New Hampshire’s highest court made a similar ruling only recently, in 2008.

The California ruling is a key reason why L.A. became the capital of the multibillion-dollar porn business. The justices defended the right of film producers to recruit people to act in sexually explicit movies, making it impossible for police and district attorneys to prosecute producers of pornography on charges of soliciting people to engage in prostitution.

The California case stemmed from the conviction in 1985 of Harold Freeman, who had faced a possible prison term for hiring actresses for up to $800 a day to perform explicit sex acts in a movie called “Caught from Behind II,” according to Times coverage at the time.

The court dismissed prosecutors’ argument that the porn performers were prostitutes. Rather, the justices ruled they were being paid to act for the purposes of making a film, and not to sexually arouse or gratify the film producer, which is an element of prostitution.

Meanwhile, the New Hampshire Supreme Court in 2008 said a person who was recruiting talent for a porn film should not have been prosecuted under anti-prostitution laws.

Those court rulings are one reason why the president of the AIDS Healthcare Foundation, Michael Weinstein, said he finds it unlikely that the porn companies will move out of California.

But attorney Marc J. Randazza [pictured] of Las Vegas, whose clients include a porn firm, said he finds it entirely possible that adult film companies in L.A. could relocate to Nevada.

Randazza said he would find it hard to believe that a district attorney in Nevada would target porn producers in a state that permits legalized prostitution in some areas.

But if many porn productions did move to Sin City, the AIDS Healthcare Foundation promised to take the condoms-in-porn issue there.

“When the industry says, ‘We’ll go to Nevada,’ we vowed we will follow them,” said foundation spokesman Ged Kenslea.

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By: rawalex https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/the-new-condom-law-what-will-it-mean-5726/#comment-5646 Wed, 18 Jan 2012 04:45:21 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=5726#comment-5646 You don’t even have to worry about rogue elements. You can just watch more of the production moving offshore, or at least “out of town”. Perhaps this is the real motivation, to drive porn production out of the city limits.

What I think is really funny is this: They will shoot with condoms, and then at the end, rip the condom off and make the girl swallow the load anyway. Not like there is any less exchange of fluids, just perhaps in a different manner.

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By: Jamie Gardner https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/the-new-condom-law-what-will-it-mean-5726/#comment-5644 Tue, 17 Jan 2012 22:57:06 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=5726#comment-5644 If a motorcycle rider does not wear a helmet during a accident, he or she could possibly be severally injured or killed. Many motorcycle riders will accept the risk because they feel more comfortable not wearing a helmet. Many porn actors feel more sexual pleasure when they don’t wear condoms. They know what the
risks are.

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By: MikeSouth https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/the-new-condom-law-what-will-it-mean-5726/#comment-5642 Tue, 17 Jan 2012 21:01:46 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=5726#comment-5642 You can’t compare condoms in the workplace to helmet laws, that’s apples and oranges. The issue here pretty clear cut and puffing up your chest and saying we will move out of California isn’t going to help…most of the people passing these laws would laugh and say “good riddance”

As for the emergence of “rogue elements” ya right…..let me name some names for ya….Rob Black, Mark Handel (Khan Tusion), Donny Long, Michael Tierney (Joe Blow). OK are you really saying we are going to get “rogue elements”…hell porn is full of rogue elements that even WE dont want.

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By: richard373 https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/the-new-condom-law-what-will-it-mean-5726/#comment-5641 Tue, 17 Jan 2012 13:17:16 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=5726#comment-5641 They have motorcycle helmet law in California mandatory that wear one there when ride motorcycle there . They enforce that big time there.

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By: DWB https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/the-new-condom-law-what-will-it-mean-5726/#comment-5640 Tue, 17 Jan 2012 12:21:04 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=5726#comment-5640 How about adults take responsibility for their own actions? If you’re not prepared to catch an STD, and maybe some you can’t get rid of, perhaps you shouldn’t step foot into the sex industry.

And for the record, condoms will NOT protect anyone against HPV and herpes.

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By: BT https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/the-new-condom-law-what-will-it-mean-5726/#comment-5639 Tue, 17 Jan 2012 10:26:09 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=5726#comment-5639 First, I’m not a fan of condoms in film. I just see it as inevitable. As Mike has said repeatedly, porn has brought this on itself.

On helmet laws, I live in New Hampshire, where we don’t have helmet laws – or seat belt laws for that matter – when it comes to private vehicles. Heck, in most communities in New Hampshire it’s legal to be completely naked in public if you don’t act in a lascivious manner. Unfortunately, it’s never the pretty people who decide to strip down on a summer’s day on the town square to get a little sun.

However, we have very strict workplace safety rules and last year, under a Tea Party legislature, the state toughened worker comp regulations making it more expensive for a small business to comply.

Even as a libertarian state, the legislature makes a distinction between personal freedoms and a safe workplace.

Personal freedoms and workplace safety/public health are two different things, just as there are two standards for personal freedom of speech and commercial speech. The first is absolute. The other is highly regulated.

I’m not a lawyer, but I think an actor probably could file a workers comp claim for picking up an STD on a porn set if it restricts their ability to work or results in medical claims.

Similarly, I think a stripper in Mike’s club could probably file a workers comp claim if she is injuried twirling buck naked on a stripper pole or is injured if the edge of the stage collapses when she spreads her legs. If the injury is caused because the club owner cut corners that resulted in an unsafe pole or stage, the stripper could probably file a suit, despite the nature of what she was doing when the injury occurred.

By the same token, a worker in an adult book store should be covered for the same workplace injuries as a worker in a Barnes & Noble. For instance, if a rack of books falls over and crushes the worker’s foot, it shouldn’t matter that it was a rack of children’s books at B&N or a rack of porn DVDs, sex toys and dog collars at Porn Is Us. If the worker has medical bills as a result and takes time off work, its a workers comp claim.

My guess is that the reason you don’t see those claims is that strippers and porn actors are afraid they won’t work again. But under the law, if the injury takes place in a legal, regulated establishment, a workplace injury should be a workplace injury, regardless of the nature of the work being performed when the injury took place.

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By: BT https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/the-new-condom-law-what-will-it-mean-5726/#comment-5637 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 22:28:45 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=5726#comment-5637 I know Mike has written about this, so I won’t beat a dead horse. There is no right to operate an unsafe work environment or to require employees to be exposed to communicable diseases. It’s no different than requiring hard hats on a construction site or ear plugs at a certain decibel level. Or that your nurse wears gloves for certain procedures or that your dental assistant wears eye protection. Those are workplace safety/public health issues, not issues of civil liberty.

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By: Jamie Gardner https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/the-new-condom-law-what-will-it-mean-5726/#comment-5636 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 17:51:30 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=5726#comment-5636 Up through the early 1980s, shooting porn was underground in the sense that if police knew you were shooting a porn movie, they frequently would arrest you. The making of porn was illegal but porn was being publically shown in theatres. The companies releasing the porn movies had public addresses. If porn
movies have to be made outside the United States, Mexico would be a good place to go since it is so close to Los Angeles. One of the things that makes Michael Weinstein a hypocrate is that he fought proposition 8 after it was approved by the voters of California. When things didn’t go Weinstein’s way as far as the government doing what he wanted to force condoms on porn movies, he then went the proposition route. What if the porn industry got the voters to approve a law against mandatory condom use? Would he abide by that decision? Of course he wouldn’t, he would keep on with his condom crusade. There are some things that the majority voters should not be able to decide. Many states would have continued outlawing interracial marriage, if they could get away with it. It’s our court system that allowed interracial marriages across the whole country. If you left it up to the 1960s voters, many states would have banned civil rights and antiwar demonstrations. We need the court system to protect our civil liberties from people like Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorium, people who want to undermine our civil liberties. Rick Santorium wants to allow states the choice of banning sodomy, if that’s what they choose. Going by his logic, shouldn’t Muslim countries have a right to ban Christianity? Wouldn’t that be going with the will of the majority? Porn people should go picket Michael Weinstein, give him a taste of his own medicine.

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By: BT https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/the-new-condom-law-what-will-it-mean-5726/#comment-5634 Mon, 16 Jan 2012 13:09:57 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=5726#comment-5634 Mike: Help me out here. I read all these posts about how this will drive the porn business underground as if pornographers are gun-runners and smugglers. Explain to me how Vivid, Digital Playground, or Brazzers – companies with millions of dollars in revenue – go underground? These guys aren’t Sons of Anarchy, shooting porn in a warehouse in the California hills while they smuggle guns from the Irish. These are real businesses, with employees, equipment, technologists and distribution networks. They are owners with families, mortgages and kids in private schools. You’ve got performers who live in the San Fernando Valley. You don’t just pick that up and go underground – whatever that means, especially when your finished product is evidence of compliance or non-compliance.

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