Comments on: Some Insight On The Condom Law Ruling https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/some-insight-on-the-condom-law-ruling-8053/ The institute for the advance study of insensitivity and pornography Fri, 07 Jul 2023 06:01:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: jimmyk https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/some-insight-on-the-condom-law-ruling-8053/#comment-10162 Mon, 19 Aug 2013 15:08:15 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=8053#comment-10162 In reply to CPanzram.

I totally realize that filming sex acts is only legal in CA. But if a billion dollar industry with money to spend on politicians, wanted to get things legal in NV, it would happen. The AHF would follow them their, but NV wouldn’t be so friendly to an industry which was making money in the State. Laws legalizing filming could be easily integrated into the existing laws already in place.

Concerning legalization in NV… people wouldn’t care. Nothing is surprising in NV. People wouldn’t walk down the street wondering if a porn shoot was going on.

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By: BT https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/some-insight-on-the-condom-law-ruling-8053/#comment-10161 Mon, 19 Aug 2013 10:47:21 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=8053#comment-10161 Part of the issue here, I guess, is that I’m not terribly bright. Since there is a permitting process in place – you’re supposed to get a permit to film – and producers are already including recording keeping information as text at the start of a scene, why not do this just like you’re do a construction job. A contractor gets a building permit. It has a number that ties the contractor to the job and location. The contractor agrees to follow certain guidelines and regulations, does his work, and then before occupation, that work is inspected by a building inspector. If it’s not done according to code and the contractor has allowed occupation, there are fines and other remedies. The permit fees fund the inspectors.

Porn producers are getting permits to film. They’re paying money. I read about how the fees are onerous to small producers, but hey, I live in a small town in the middle of nowhere and small businesses – even the guy with one cab or one hot dog stand that operates downtown on the weekend – get permits. That’s the cost of starting up a business.

Along with the Section 2257 text, include the permit number. Once the scene is shot and edited, submit it to the health department, OSHA, or whatever agency is charged with enforcing the code to review. It’s not like someone has to watch the entire scene. At the first vaginal or anal penetration, there either is or isn’t a condom.

I think the bigger issues with this are going to be about hostile workplace, for the people who have to review this. There’s got to be some smart software guy who can create a program to do a digital review before a human has to look at it. But hey, Los Angeles decided to get into the porn business. It’s a dirty business. That doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be regulated in some manner.

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By: MikeSouth https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/some-insight-on-the-condom-law-ruling-8053/#comment-10160 Mon, 19 Aug 2013 03:38:14 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=8053#comment-10160 I do believe the judges ruling put a stop to warrantless searches just because you have a permit (I may be wrong) It certainly wouldn’t stop an OSHA inspections. Im no lawyer so I dont know for sure. I would agree with JimmyD that if they want to fuck with you they will.

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By: jimmyd https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/some-insight-on-the-condom-law-ruling-8053/#comment-10159 Mon, 19 Aug 2013 01:21:25 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=8053#comment-10159 In reply to BT.

Not only do inspectors not need warrants, if the police show up for any number of infractions (parking, noise, nudity in plain sight and not-so-plain site) and, once there inside the location, just about any sort of probable cause will end in a search. Trust me. Been there, seen it. They’ll check IDs and run outstanding warrant checks on everyone there, check all personal belongings for drugs and other things… at that point, condoms are the least concern. They’ll arrest people, impound gear, cite people for anything they can think of. This kind of stuff hasn’t happened much in recent years but, not too long ago, it was commonplace enough. If the city wants to get tough, they can. If they want to use the condom law as one of their excuses to do so, they might. Obviously, keeping a low profile is advised, even if you have a permit. Not trying to sound like fear monger but going underground is certainly an option.

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By: BT https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/some-insight-on-the-condom-law-ruling-8053/#comment-10158 Mon, 19 Aug 2013 00:48:10 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=8053#comment-10158 Someone made the point about health inspectors and restaurants. Health inspectors don’t get warrants to inspect restaurants; elevator inspectors don’t get warrants to inspect elevators; fire marshals don’t get warrants to inspect sprinkler systems. My guess is that OSHA doesn’t need a warrant to go on a mainstream film set doing a high risk stunt. I think this “warrantless search” thing is a red herring.

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By: mharris127 https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/some-insight-on-the-condom-law-ruling-8053/#comment-10157 Mon, 19 Aug 2013 00:16:03 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=8053#comment-10157 In reply to jimmyk.

Jilted, filming porn in SF is legal. As long as you aren’t filming in public you don’t even need a permit. Film porn in Vegas and you risk being handcuffed by assholes in uniform, taken to a weird place called jail and getting to meet the five bubba club who will ream out a certain orifice on your posterior with certain appendages attached to their groin. Filming adult movies is a felony in all of Las Vegas as prostitution is illegal and filming sex for money is considered prostitution (and pandering for the director) there. On the flip side there is a cute jail guard there that I would love to fuck (the Las Vegas Jail was featured on TV for a couple of seasons — I have never actually been inside the facility). No thanks, Jilted — I would rather film in SF. I value my ass virginity.

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By: jimmyd https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/some-insight-on-the-condom-law-ruling-8053/#comment-10156 Sun, 18 Aug 2013 22:41:54 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=8053#comment-10156 In reply to CPanzram.

I worked a streaming show for a couple of years, twice a week. We had a crew of 5 and usually the cast included 3 to 5 girls, plus 1 or 2 meat puppets. They moved the show because they were concerned they could be tracked by the ISP. It never occurred to anyone to use a proxy server I guess… you know, anyone being all the tech geeks.

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By: CPanzram https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/some-insight-on-the-condom-law-ruling-8053/#comment-10155 Sun, 18 Aug 2013 22:34:04 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=8053#comment-10155 In reply to jilted.

@jimmyk Vegas would be ideal considering the housing market tanked, but it is slowly coming back. It would be an inexpensive move for the most part, but shooting isn’t legal there. Moving to avoid a violation like shooting without condoms wouldn’t be wise if the place you are moving to is another violation.

Why not just take the Ronald Reagan Freeway to Simi Valley? That’s out of LA County and like a 20 minute drive from Chatsworth.

I’m sure LA has the ability to do inspections. How will they know? My living room looks like 3 others that I know of. Change the throw rug, hang different paintings, and put a cover on the couch and viola. New room. You get a permit and they know where you are at. What if you don’t get the permit? They’ll only be able to really catch you if they do a walk-in.

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By: jimmyd https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/some-insight-on-the-condom-law-ruling-8053/#comment-10154 Sun, 18 Aug 2013 21:13:47 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=8053#comment-10154 In reply to jilted.

If you have a permit, they don’t need a warrant to show up on a set. They never have.

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By: jilted https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/some-insight-on-the-condom-law-ruling-8053/#comment-10153 Sun, 18 Aug 2013 20:56:30 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=8053#comment-10153 In reply to jimmyd.

How do they know its in LA? The film permit, issued by the county. But if they dont have a permit then maybe they can go onto that set without a warrant.

It the city/county, has the resources to inpect THOUSANDS of resturuants several times a year, the cost of inspecting a few porn companies is not going to make those inpections unlikely.

Now that condoms are the law, and not just an OSHA regulation, AGENTS are legally responsible to ensure that all laws are followed when they book a talent with a company, including the use of condoms, and the proper workers comp insurance.

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