Never Mind CPAN! YOU are the one who was defending and making excuses for Gonz! It’s right here! hmmm..

Jilted I hate to say it but I believe you couldn’t be more right. But I just can’t see Bobbie and Jen throwing up there hands and saying the hell with all this, who needs it? They didn’t just happen to open up CET they only did it because according to Bobbie after AIM closed she got phone call after phone call asking if she would open up a place like AIM so that’s what Bobbie and Jen did. Now to be going through something like this I really wouldn’t blame Bobbie or Jen if they chose to walk away. WHO WOULD BLAME THEM???? But isn’t that what Derek Alex TTS and all the other hater’s want? Yes life was so simple when TTS had the monopoly? But its like I once said if TTS puts CET out of business then I bet there won’t be any more loyalty coupons kickbacks and then they can charge what ever they want for the test once again.

jilted: think and smart are two words that don’t seem to apply to most people in the industry… LOL.

I hope you’re right jilted! I hope Derek and Gonz and the rest of these losers plans.. comes back to bite them in the ass!

THere is no IF in this equation. And what you just mentioned are the exact reasons I stated as to why this is going to be one of the biggest mistakes the industry has ever made. Nobody has ever accused Derek of being smart, he is as shortsighted as the rest of the industry, and it is obvious that these guys did not completely think this thing through when they came up with this plan. Bobbie has been around for years. She has had more perfomrers show up at her door at all hours of the night, paid more hospital bills, held more tweeking performers through their withdrawls, and paid for more bus tickets home than any single person on this planet. And this is barely the tip of the tip of the iceberg of what Bobbie and Jen have been doing for years. And when you fuck people over who have given their lives to helping people who barely care about themselves, dont be surprised when you get bitten by the hand thats been caring for you for years.

Again, this is all about eliminating CET from the testing business, and putting all the eggs in the basket of the company that ‘rewards’ those who use them.

jilted: If Bobbie and Jen know more then Miao does… Why are these people trying to throw them under the bus? Wouldn’t they be afraid Bobbie and Jen will eventually talk?

@Kate

Went to the here it is….it was about not throwing people under the bus…did see in original post that the performer named people related to his understanding/justification of working but nothing beyond speculation yet.

@Kate

I hope the accusations re provider HIPPA violations are proven to be speculation and that the accusations/speculation don’t cause the providers to walk away from their FSC agreements leaving performers in the lurch.

I have no clue what is in FSC approved provider agreements but do know that if these providers feel their professional licenses and highly regulated businesses are jeopardized they may say decide the client isn’t worth it.

jilted: I didn’t say it was jen.. Mike did.
And I don’t believe it… In both the Cameron Bay and Alex Gonz cases … all these people are trying to throw Bobbi and Jen under the bus..

And you have a good point …. Why did Mike think if it wasn’t doctor Maio who gave Stag the info… It had to be Jen?… Why not Bobbi? probably because Gonz and Derek hay are trying to throw her under the bus with the Gonz case….. BUT.. Why not the other employees at CET? couldn’t they have given the info to Stagliano?

I hope you’re right jilted.. I hope the accusations against Bobbi and Jen backfire big time on these assholes! Such BULLSHIT!
Keep speaking the TRUTH, jilted!

@Kate,
You said, if it wanst Miao then it was Jen. Why wasnt it bobbie. Why wasnt it any of the other employees at CET. CET has been in business LONG before they started doing the industry testing, and they have many more employees than Bobbie and Jen,

CET got into the industry testing because Bobbie knew Miao personally from working at SHerman Oaks Hospital. WHen AIM closed Bobbie went to Miao, and Miao was kind enough to let Bobbie use an emply office in his building to run the testing out of.

First it was Bobbie, now its Jen, why not any of he other employees? Heres another little tidbit that many might not know, Bobbie is Jens mom.

As JW pointed out, Cameron came forward right away, and was honest about her situation. For all we know she may have given her test results to any number of people who could have forwarded the information. But if your agenda is to close CET, and there is no doubt whatsoever that a certain segment of the industry has been trying to do exactly this, then what better way than to accuse them of a felony, and HIPPA violations. REMEMBER KATE< who benefits from the accusations?????

In the long run, I think the attacks on Bobbie and Jen are going to backfire big time. Bobbie is a BELOVED person by the talent, for so many reasons that simply cannot be written here. Bobbie has gone so far beyond the call of duty for years, and this is just not fair, especially allegations from people who have never met with, dealt with, or ever even heard her name before this bullshit started.

If talent were given the choice of who to believe, Bobbie, stagliano, or Derek Hay, FSC PASS, Christian Mann, Dianne Duke, Mark Kernes, or even Mike South, it wouldnt even be a contest and Bobbie would probably get at least 98% of the vote.