Comments on: My Thoughts On The Performer Database

By: Michael Whiteacre

Michael Whiteacre — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:54:23 +0000

@DWB – Thank you for the correction.

By: Michael Whiteacre

Michael Whiteacre — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:52:56 +0000

@mharris127 – If you visit the Testing Facilities tab at https://aphss.org/performer-info You will see a list of centers.

Click on any of the name of any center listed and it will take you to a page that provides more detailed information for performers and producers.

You call the number of the clinic you want, and they will recommend an approved draw station nearest you.

If you’re in CA, FL or NV — Lab Test LA or Primex can serve you.

AMTC has doctors in every state.

It is my understanding, then, that you don’t even need to visit your own internist, because a doctor affiliated with any of these clinics can perform the service of prescribing a test. The rules of how this is done vary from state to state.

Again this is my understanding from what I’ve read and heard. I’m neither a hardcore producer nor a performer, so I’m not privy to all the intricacies of this particular process. I urge you to contact FSC with any questions with regard to the system that I cannot answer definitively.

And yet one more thing on the cost of APHSS for smaller producers vs. larger producers:

The reason smaller producers (not to mention a-holes) like Donny were able to have access to the AIM database despite the fact that they did not want to pay the fee is because people routinely shared passwords. This was a very dangerous custom — as should now be abundantly obvious to everyone — and this fact was taken into consideration by the developers of the APHSS system.

By: DWB

DWB — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:31:57 +0000

@Michael (and anyone else who wants to know) – Update on the info Michael posted regarding AIM’s affairs.

The email given is [email protected], but that is not the correct David Hagen.

I email him and he replied with this:

“I am not the David Hagen that is the trustee of AIM Healthcare. It is David R Hagen in Woodland Hills. I have forwarded your email to him.

David S Hagen”

By: mharris127

mharris127 — Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:18:08 +0000

Yes, the testing site is available — my question was how to get the prescription if you are based outside of the LA area. If a person’s internist (doctor for adults) may write the prescription instead, that isn’t a problem but if only one doctor is writing the scripts for the program that could be a problem.

BTW, I looked at the FAQ’s. They answered some of my questions but not all. Also, e-mail copies are a convenient service but I wonder how many old-line producers would accept them without the testing service’s seal (essentially using a notary imprinter) imprinted on them (maybe not a problem with some now that the test’s validity may be verified online but some of the older producers may still want the official seal). Personally if all positive talent is kept off of the database and I can verify the validity dates online as well as see a copy of the test, I would be happy without a seal personally.

By: Michael Whiteacre

Michael Whiteacre — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 23:02:17 +0000

Database development is not the only cost involved in a program like this.

As for the flat fee for producers, and smaller producers opting out: this program has been designed to grow organically to accomodate as many inudustry members as possible, but for now, what is being launched is the ground work. Larger studios are in constant production. Smaller producers are unlikely to need the database as often, but they (FSC) won’t really know the numbers until they start using it.

It’s also my understanding that AIM charged everyone the same rate.

Also, regarding the talent and hard copies of tests, picking up results is optional, but it’s up to the performer to get a hard copy or e-version of their results to show. APHSS.org is verification that they didn’t fuck with their test, and upholds the protocols in case of an incident. Look at the FAQs on the website — it explains a lot there.

Also — I forgot to mention this earlier — look at the testing facilities on the site – they are available NATIONWIDE including San Francisco.

By: MikeSouth

MikeSouth — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 22:49:05 +0000

mharris if this were the real world I might agree with your argument but this is porn I’d bet they don’t even have a thousand dollars in the development of this database.

and realistically there is a LOT of money in testing talent I’m sure the markup on the test is between 50 and 100%

AIM was making a killing…or someone there was. The PCR/DNA test is very expensive after the markup, AIM was reportedly making more than 100% per test. Whereas the more reliable tests had a much lower margin. At this point AIM is toast so I doubt anyone will ever really know.

I dont think halfass is going to fly because the FSC has no credibility with the performers.

By: mharris127

mharris127 — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 22:24:27 +0000

I don’t think they will make any money in the first few years and they have probably put many thousands of dollars into APHSS. I don’t have a problem with them recouping their expenses. However, I do think that the producer’s charge should be by scene and not a flat fee. The flat fee system just encourages the smaller producers to not opt into the system as $3K a year could make or break them (I am talking about the people doing 3-10 scenes a month for Clips For Sale). The fee requirement just runs people like that out of the system altogether, so I think that needs to be rectified. For example, charge a dollar per scene (not movie) produced over the month. Large companies such as Kink or Hustler that produce many, many scenes pay their fair share without forcing the mom and pops out of the business. For example if a company produces ten scenes per day for twenty days a month, they would pay $200. Adjust the price per scene to make APHSS cover its costs, of course. I would include the cost of bi-weekly testing in the per-scene fee especially for the mid-size and larger companies (a tiered system may work better than my example but would be too complicated to explain here) but I understand the arguments the other way.

By: sean aka trpwl

sean aka trpwl — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 22:05:50 +0000

Ok this will sound really stupid but does the FSC make any money from all of this?? i ask cuz i dont know..not trying to a smart ass

By: Michael Whiteacre

Michael Whiteacre — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 20:25:05 +0000

@Toby and other readers — Remember, AIM also charged producers monthly for access to its database.

The purpose of APHSS.org is as a verification resource for tests, and also to uphold protocols in the event of an outbreak. Private doctors and clinics have no way to do an industry-wide stoppage if something happens.

Also, APHSS has protocols for new performers and for treatment in the event of infection that need to be observed. APHSS facilities have been given policies for how to deal with performers’ issues with dignity and understanding — i.e., a non-judgmental environment with professionals who are familiar with the needs of the performers.

By: Michael Whiteacre

Michael Whiteacre — Fri, 29 Jul 2011 20:20:26 +0000

@Dirty Bob – Because Sharon Mitchell failed to pull the database/site down before she folded up shop and sent AIM into bankruptcy protection.

I refer you to contact the ONLY PERSON who at this point in time has anything to do with AIM’s affairs, or any power to act on its behalf: AIM’s bankruptcy trustee:

The Law Office of David Hagen
16830 Ventura Blvd., Suite 500
Encino, CA 91436-1795
(818) 990-4416
[email protected]