Comments on: Is Escorting the New Feature Dancing? https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/is-escorting-the-new-feature-dancing-12397/ The institute for the advance study of insensitivity and pornography Wed, 05 Jul 2023 15:32:49 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: mharris127 https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/is-escorting-the-new-feature-dancing-12397/#comment-27359 Sat, 31 Oct 2015 19:13:07 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=12397#comment-27359 In reply to MikeSouth.

You are in the ballpark regarding foreign earnings being tax free as far as the US is concerned (the figure increases some each year). However, it is approx. $100K per year free of US tax, not per trip. The Dubai trips are history but I wonder how many escorts that did go work there misunderstood that and are now being assessed interest and penalties on hundreds of thousands of dollars. $50K a month adds up to $600K a year (my understanding was that “prince” paid all expenses), leaving $500K taxable at up to 39.6% federal (the net rate would not be quite that high in most cases due to a progressive federal income tax rate tier) and whatever the high rate is in the escort’s residence state (varying from none at all in Alaska and Texas to a tiered rate as high as 11% in California).

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By: schlermy https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/is-escorting-the-new-feature-dancing-12397/#comment-27354 Fri, 30 Oct 2015 04:03:31 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=12397#comment-27354 There was a 20/20 story about a hot mom who went over to Dubai to “work” for that prince. She said she was there about a couple of months, the girls worked together in something akin to a nightclub but they didn’t have to sleep with anyone else, they just had to wait for the prince to pick them out. And check this out; the girls started fighting with one another over the prince lol!

Hot mom eventually got picked to fuck the prince and shortly after that she was on her way back to L.A. or wherevers. I forget how much the hot mom said she made but I think it was something between 75k-100k.

If I was a rich prince I’m not sure I wouldn’t do the same thing. RIP prince pimp.

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By: MikeSouth https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/is-escorting-the-new-feature-dancing-12397/#comment-27350 Thu, 29 Oct 2015 21:37:33 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=12397#comment-27350 In reply to mharris127.

the dubai trips are history, the prince they were seeing died (the circumstances are somewhat blurry but it isnt something I would generally look into anyway. technically I think the first 100K you make working outside the USA is tax free anyway, of course it could be argued depending on how and where they were paid. Regardless the Dubai bookings are history now

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By: DannyOcean https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/is-escorting-the-new-feature-dancing-12397/#comment-27349 Thu, 29 Oct 2015 17:25:41 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=12397#comment-27349 Even escorting is competitive because now you have these college girls, housewives, ex models advertising on these sugardaddy sites wanting much less than what traditional escorts want. I know one of my other Director friends will not bring back a lady if as he says “She f*ucks like a prostitute”. It’s hard to bring back those ladies on a Porn Set when they start escorting..They will say things like “How many positions?” or “How long will I be here?” or they will simply cancel the shoot because of a Private and be honest about it.

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By: Karmafan https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/is-escorting-the-new-feature-dancing-12397/#comment-27348 Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:13:07 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=12397#comment-27348 In reply to mharris127.

Look at some of the well known escort agencies on line and you will see over and over the famous porn star escort is on “tour” in Dubai for a week at a time.

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By: mharris127 https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/is-escorting-the-new-feature-dancing-12397/#comment-27347 Thu, 29 Oct 2015 09:16:42 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=12397#comment-27347 In reply to rawalex.

I have read (from well-regarded sources — including this one IIRC) about girls flying to Dubai for a week to fuck an Arab prince and making up to $50K plus expenses for doing so. If a girl needs to use that money for traceable items such as a house, car or investments she needs to figure out how to launder that cash to pay taxes on it and make it look like the money was made legally (which is a big problem for a girl doing this). Even with that issue a porn chick could fly to Dubai for a week once every other month, do a scene or two during that time to “promote” herself on the escort market and live quite well.

The advantage of working stateside and booking through an “escort” service (compared to flying to Dubai to prostitute herself) is that the money is already laundered and looks legal (at least at first glance), the disadvantage is she would only make $20K working a full week minus the escort agency’s fee and that is during a good week.

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By: MikeSouth https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/is-escorting-the-new-feature-dancing-12397/#comment-27346 Thu, 29 Oct 2015 03:54:33 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=12397#comment-27346 In reply to NormalAndSane.

i dont know if it was manuel or not that was my first guess too and you do remember correctly the Disney executive was named Richard Nanula and yes Samantha Saint swore she thought it was a regular shoot but most people dont believe her, trinity St Clair set up the shoot and most people think she rolled over on Nanula for a cash reward…in other words she set him up. Trinity is pretty much personna non grata on porn sets these days and her partner in the scam Greg Dodson is also mired in troubles

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By: BT https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/is-escorting-the-new-feature-dancing-12397/#comment-27345 Thu, 29 Oct 2015 01:30:11 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=12397#comment-27345 In reply to MikeSouth.

Again, Mike, you’re right on. I’m not in the porn industry, but from my perspective the economics are something like this. I can get $1,500 to do a scene that is going to take 2 to 6 hours of my time and involve intense pounding for a portion of that time. At the end, my day (and my vagina or asshole) is shot. Or …… I can see three guys who will pay me $500 to a grand or more each to spend some time with me. They’re going to spend a whole lot of time on foreplay – and by foreplay, I mean chitchat, unzipping their pants, fondling and being nervous as hell – and shoot their wad in 10 to 30 minutes with not a lot of wear and tear on my private parts. In all likelihood, they’re not going to choke me, spit on me, yank my hair, or slap me. Rather, they’ll probably be grateful. I walk away with more cash; and I still have time to hit the gym and go out to dinner.

Maybe I’m simplifying things ….. but when I go on eros and read the reviews, that seems to be the way events go.

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By: rawalex https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/is-escorting-the-new-feature-dancing-12397/#comment-27344 Thu, 29 Oct 2015 00:36:48 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=12397#comment-27344 My take here is pretty simple: Porn is no longer a truly sellable product. Piracy, tubes, pirate tubes, and all that comes with it have effectively reduced the value of porn as a retail product to a level where it’s almost impossible to make real money with it. The knock on effect is that the performers are getting paid relative shit to do work, and are expected to do more (marked increase in anal scenes, gangbang scenes, and the like) for similar amounts of money.

Those who are paying for scenes to be made are using them as a come on to either upsell users to cams, dating, and the like, or are looking for a fish to sign up to a porn site so they can pre-check cross sell them into oblivion. There isn’t really enough money left in the ecosystem to support the performer pool.

Feature dancing isn’t what it use to be either, as there are only a certain number of clubs that really pay and the number of girls who could potentially do it is pretty high. End result is depressed rates.

Now, compare that to doing PSE hotel meet ups for a couple of grand an hour. Fly to a city, do a couple of those a day for a four or five day “weekend” and boom, you are home with ten or twenty grand CASH (ie, no tax) in your pocket. A girl can live very well on that type of cash – or she can party her ass off for the other three weeks of the month.

I am also seeing girls doing the best combo: Feature dancing and PSE on the side – so feature dance every night, and do a PSE meet up either after finishing for an overnight, or before going in for a couple of hours.

Using porn to make a name and establish value is pretty much the name of the game. People pay for the fantasy – they won’t pay for the video anymore.

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By: mharris127 https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/is-escorting-the-new-feature-dancing-12397/#comment-27343 Wed, 28 Oct 2015 22:21:22 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=12397#comment-27343 In reply to NormalAndSane.

Normal, there is an article right here on MikeSouth.com about the Richard Nanula scandal (which you reference).

I think Mike was commenting about a director by the way the comment was written, I don’t think Manuel Ferrara directs. Manuel also doesn’t come across as a douchebag (at least to me) when he talks but since his accent causes his English to not be clear sometimes he might be taken that way unintentionally.

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