Yep with a waiver they can do AP calc in 9th stats in 10th and then 1/2 days at affiliated college for Jr & sr year, then two years for BA or BS

That mirrors my math timeline. Algebra 1 & 2 and Trigonometry in high school. Linear Equations, Calculus 101-104, Statistics and Numerical Analysis in college.
College bound students today are taking Calculus. It wasn’t even offered when I was in high school (grad HS 1978).

Yes, that has changed too, Lurk. I was just talking with my father about kids riding bicycles — my older niece and younger nephew (both still minors) never learned how. I learned how to ride a bike before I was eight years old. Kids don’t seem to play outside much anymore, they prefer computer and tablets to keep them occupied. My nephew has his own laptop, both my nephew and older niece have their own tablets. When I was attending university what passed for computers (they would be unrecognizable as computers today) were the size of a house, were only used at government agencies, large universities and very large companies and cost millions of dollars.

One more change — if you spank or pinch the ears on your kid today you go to jail, it is considered assault, battery and/or child abuse depending on your state. No wonder kids grow up to be criminals in large numbers — you can’t punish them and nip criminal tendencies in the bud.

Sixth grade algebra? I was a freshman in high school before I took an algebra class (and that was considered an advanced math class, most students didn’t take it until sophomore year). As for counting change I knew how to do that before I started kindergarten. Fifteen years ago I saw a freshman high school math textbook — they were teaching college-level statistics for crying out fucking loud! Leave the stats and calculus for college/university (if it is necessary for whatever degree/line of work a student is preparing for) where it is most appropriate. What they are teaching now with common core (which I understand was not fully implemented in MI) I don’t know. Things have sure changed, that is for sure.

In todays world it makes sense because with tech kids are more geared to memorizing process than we were. Five year olds know how to turn devices on, enter security code and choose their app vs us open the door, don’t go too far & be home when you’re called unless you liked pinched ears 😉

Education is a powerful good thing, people should avail themselves of it more often

@Toby

We must be near the same age. 20+ years ago it broke my heart to discover how many kids didn’t know the alphabet, couldn’t count to ten or tie their shoes entering kindergarten. I ‘get’ math too which is why it was so hysterical a teacher telling me coins would confuse kids couldn’t comprehend my issue with borrowing 8oz cups of sugar… she stopped using the cups once I explained she was messing with cooking conversions we were doing at home.

I’m one of those peeps that “get” math. The common core math is exactly how I’ve have been doing math in my head since I was a kid in the late 1960s. Trying to explain it to parents that don’t “get” math, and learned the old memorization way, is a tall order.

Same for porn, new ways seem crazy and the old ways die hard.