Actually, HIV hasn’t hit the talent pool (that we know of) in quite a while. The last three HIV scares were false positives. However, it is quite unusual for a testing organization to have three false HIV positives in two years time. That makes me wonder if one of the labs doesn’t know their ass from their blood samples and is fucking up the tests. I hope Mike can find out if all three recent false positives were from the same lab or not. If not, then it is just chance — especially if each false positive is from a different lab (IIRC there are four labs in the PASS program — CET, Talent Testing, Same Day Testing in Vegas and Kink’s contracted lab). If it is so we have a problem. Certainly after three false positives for HIV in two years time if it is one lab fucking up and it were my decision they would be out of PASS so quick it would make your head spin. I have my suspicions as to which lab it is from what has been said about its testing practices over the years but I will not name it until I know more, I do not wish to falsely accuse anyone of gross incompetence. Mike is a good investigative reporter, if he can’t find out no one in the industry other than Diane Duke and the incompetent buffoon squad can and they likely won’t talk as they are already embarrassed that they butcher just about everything they touch from saving AIM (failed disastrously although AIM management is more to blame with that one), the anti-Measure B campaign (failed miserably), the lawsuit to get section 2257 overturned (again, failed miserably), lobbying for the good of the industry in general (they don’t even have a full-time lobbyist in Sacramento) and now maybe PASS. The only “success” they have had is preventing a state-wide condom law which most of the legitimate credit goes to Lorelei Lee and maybe a little credit to Karen Tynan (I question her competence due to other matters she has worked on but she is an attorney, not a lobbyist), not the FSC buffoon squad (who can’t even lobby their way out of a jaywalking ticket). Peter Acworth, Marci Hirsch, John Stagliano and Steve Orenstein would be better off creating and funneling their FSC money into another organization to better adult industry interests and administer a testing regime than Diane Duke’s FSC.

I don’t think this will really hit home until a female performer of note is infected. By that statement, I don’t in any way want to imply that this is something I want to happen. I’m a porn fan. What I mean, as long as it keeps happening to cross-over male performers or marginal female performers, like Laura Roxx or Cameron Bay, its easy to dismiss the risk and blame it on the performer. When and if a James Deen, Julia Ann, Lisa Ann, Phoenix Marie, Johnny Sins, etc. is infected, it will hit home.

Again, please don’t interpret that as suggesting that it would be a good thing. All I’m saying is that to date, it has been marginal performers who have been infected, which can give the false impression that if you’re a star, you’ve got nothing to worry about.

Jilted, it is true that you can be infected with any VD right after your test but the likelihood of being infected is lower within 14 days than after three months of fucking five guys/gals a week like some porn performers do (for pay, of course). The rules of chance show that you are more likely to get VD after fucking 90 guys/gals than you are after fucking 10. That is where testing comes in, a VD will be caught a lot sooner if you test every 14 days then if you test every 90 and you will not infect as many people if you do pick up a VD with some guy/gal. Sex is like playing Russian Roulette when you have many multiple partners, eventually the sex gun will go off and you will get VD when you fuck five guys/gals a week, the longer you do it the more likely the VD gun will go off and you will get something whether it be chlaymidia (more likely) or HIV (which is actually damn hard to pass on through sex unless some guy cums HIV positive cum in your pussy, asshole or on your eyeball). If everyone you fuck tests on the same 14 day schedule the chances of catching a VD drop dramatically over a 90 day testing schedule because of the rules of chance.

BTW just because you don’t like what I say doesn’t mean I need to “shut up”. I don’t even think that about Common Sense as long as he keeps the insult train muted. True assholes with a vendetta against the industry and at least 1000 peoples livelihoods like Weinstein and Izzy (and the Tea Party in Congress who make Weinstein look like a rank amateur), those that beat their wives/girlfriends at least three days a week (we have three people either in porn right now or that were in porn directly before being sentenced to get ass fucked by five bubbas nightly at the local jail that evidently love to beat their wives/girlfriends) or those that lose their cool every time someone disagrees with them deserve to be lambasted, I do not (and as long as Common Sense keeps posting without the vitroil against me that he had six months ago he does not either, he hasn’t lambasted you either lately that I recall). I think you are misguided, not a complete cocksucking AIDS infested asshole like Weinstein (yes, I know that he has helped hundreds of HIV patients and I appreciate his charity assisting them but unfortunately that doesn’t make up for his vendetta against working performers and producers, half of whom would probably donate to his charity if he either helped the industry reasonably reduce the chances of VD or even just left the adult industry alone to continue to employ at least 1000 people — keeping many off of the welfare rolls as the barrier to entry for even mildly ugly women is low, attractive women can actually make enough to live comfortably and pay for college or start a business to better themselves by fucking for cash for 15-20 hours a week).

Also, I guarantee I am more intelligent than you think. If you weren’t so set on your opinion being the only valid opinion you would realize that mine is just as valid as yours — I even think your opinion is valid even though I disagree with it. Also, when I was a kid Sesame Street had not started filming yet so I could not “impress mommy with what I just learned on Sesame Street”. Jilted, I also apologize for my comment a week or so ago about people without high school degrees not (usually) being able to make $90K annually without sucking dick, I was speaking generally and certainly did not intend to hit home with you or even insult anyone with that comment, period. Sometimes I forget that not everyone that is successful has a college degree (I spent too many years in the ivory tower of academia I guess) and in citing the general way things work nowadays hit a nerve with you. I sounded insensitive and should have rephrased that comment.

Dear mdxxx

I don’t see why you think all the precautions will prevent this. I mean, one of the industry’s biggest production companies (or whatever you want to call it), has their HIV positive leader happily having bareback sex with a performer who was actively filming bareback scenes at the time. It can happen anywhere that someone drops their guard and doesn’t give a shit, or thinks “it won’t happen to me”.

Bar hookups are far worse. As I know from experience when I was younger, if you build chemistry with a girl, it isn’t too difficult to get the “i’m clean” discussion out of the way and happily have bareback sex. Male porn performers pick up girls (or guys) at bars and play the “I am a tested performer , you have nothing to worry about” card and get bareback sex quite easily if they want to.

The verbal “im clean” works the majority of the time in the hookup game (dating sites, tinder, craigslist, etc) if you really are motivated to have bareback sex. Don’t think porn performers don’t try that too. They are used to barebacking every day for work, so it becomes easy to just accept it in their private life.

I support porn girls escorting, but I know from my own escorting experiences that if you become a regular with a girl, you can often get bareback sex once that rapport and trust is established. I always laugh at escorts on local message forums that go ballistic and whine about guys who ask for bareback, but most of them will bareback you if they like you or trust you or you are a regular. I used to see escorts regularly years ago, and the amount of bareback sex seemed cool at the time but I look back and can’t believe how easy it was.

Also, you have HIV hits and the people just vanish from the industry and nothing ever gets reported. People in the know will have their suspicions of who those would be over the year. There have been more HIV cases than ever was reported.

The industry testing is good, it keeps HIV out of the talent pool most of the time. But, with off camera bareback sex happening so often, HIV will get into the talent pool a few times a year.

Mharris,,,you idiot,,,,the risk is exactly the same wheter you get tested or not,,,testing is an AFTER the fact thing,,,,,just because you got tested yesterday doesnt mean the person you are fucking today isnt going to infect you.,,,,,,jesus fucking christ,,will you please stop pretending that you have one fucking clue what youre talking about. God dammit youre like a fucking child trying to impress mommy with what he just learned on Sesame Street. Another possilbe HIV infection, yes I am am fucking pissed right now,,,Mharris, and Comonsense,,,,please in the name of common decencey, shut the fuck up.

@Commonsense,,time for you to shut the fuck up. Mike, now is the time to get rid of this asswipe,,,,,not here, not on this thread you asshat.