Comments on: A Response to The Member Who Actually Wrote Kayden’s Last Post https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/a-response-to-the-member-who-actually-wrote-kaydens-last-post-2459/ The institute for the advance study of insensitivity and pornography Fri, 07 Jul 2023 06:45:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: goodwill https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/a-response-to-the-member-who-actually-wrote-kaydens-last-post-2459/#comment-1040 Fri, 02 Jan 2009 12:17:18 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/a-response-to-the-member-who-actually-wrote-kaydens-last-post-2459/#comment-1040 Who’s ethics? No one’s. Everyone’s. Objective reality’s. What is necessary to keep oneself alive. It doesn’t matter what people believe, or how they might apply those beliefs – morality is objective and the morality of an action can be determined through reason. That is basic Ayn Rand.

What isn’t basic Ayn Rand, as the comment I responded to implied, is your attempt at a defense of liberty. Which, by the way, I am still not exactly sure why you made. Wait, I am sure why – an overzealous attempt insulate to your actions from objective moral judgement by emphasizing that they should be allowed politically – I’m just not sure what rhetoric in that guy’s post prompted it. You talked past him and attacked an argument he didn’t make.

I’m equally as baffeled as to why you used it against me just now. I made no such suggestion that objective moral principles, if they are ever to be followed widely, need to be enforced by government. I merely argued that those actions which the government does take – as well as the many actions it would refuse to take in a free society – have, like all moral human action, an objective justification. That freedom and small government are necessary and justified, not to protect man’s whims, but to protect the free functioning of his mind to rational (ie: ethical) decisions. Such decisions are which sustain his life and bring him happiness, and such decisions can only be made voluntarily. Again, basic Ayn Rand.

I was just defending her views from distortion through false association.

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By: MikeSouth https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/a-response-to-the-member-who-actually-wrote-kaydens-last-post-2459/#comment-1039 Fri, 02 Jan 2009 06:07:10 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/a-response-to-the-member-who-actually-wrote-kaydens-last-post-2459/#comment-1039 See it’s easy to sit back and criticize when you don’t stand for anything. You can toss around wordslike ethics and almost nobody would disagree that it is important to make sure that people are acting in an ethical manner because everyone applies what they believe to be ethical.

And therein lies the problem with your glib statement…exactly whose ethics are we using here? Who is the arbiter of what is ethical and what isn’t for a person who wants to clip toenails for a living? Or sell gas or groceries, or make pornography?

It’s easy for those who sit on their ass with no real conviction, simply satisfied enough to let government control every bit of their lives and criticize those who want to own their own lives. After all you already laid your life and your freedom and your will at the feet of the federal government, you haven’t anything left worth fighting for….

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By: goodwill https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/a-response-to-the-member-who-actually-wrote-kaydens-last-post-2459/#comment-1036 Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:19:51 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/a-response-to-the-member-who-actually-wrote-kaydens-last-post-2459/#comment-1036 Where’s the Ayn Rand in this? It just sounds like cheap libertarian dogma. Arguing for liberty by ignoring ethics – and in fact doing so merely to insulate certain behavior from ethical scrutiny – is pointless. Even if you win, you’re doomed to fail. The big government, moral relativist liberals will eat you alive from the bottom up. Just like they did to the Republicans; a once small-government party who tried to base morality on their own version of relativism: religious superstition. The giant state we all live under today is the result.

As Ayn Rand once said: “In any conflict between two men who hold the same basic principles, it is the more consistent who wins.”

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By: KaydenKross https://mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/a-response-to-the-member-who-actually-wrote-kaydens-last-post-2459/#comment-1029 Mon, 29 Dec 2008 19:22:25 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/mike-south-commentary/a-response-to-the-member-who-actually-wrote-kaydens-last-post-2459/#comment-1029 Oh how I love Ayn Rand

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