Comments on: Poison Love: Nikki Hearts and Leigh Raven https://mikesouth.com/industry/poison-love-nikki-hearts-and-leigh-raven-26543/ The institute for the advance study of insensitivity and pornography Sat, 01 Jul 2023 17:19:46 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Justice https://mikesouth.com/industry/poison-love-nikki-hearts-and-leigh-raven-26543/#comment-33008 Wed, 18 Jul 2018 08:27:20 +0000 http://mikesouth.com/?p=26543#comment-33008 @goreblaster The problem is Max Hardcore was found guilty of being abusive towards women and even went to prison for a few years over his shenanigans.

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By: goreblaster https://mikesouth.com/industry/poison-love-nikki-hearts-and-leigh-raven-26543/#comment-33003 Mon, 16 Jul 2018 21:36:53 +0000 http://mikesouth.com/?p=26543#comment-33003 @mharris127

Bonnie Rotten did in fact accuse Max Hardcore of abuse, and even tried to sue him. It was long after her scene with him was released. Seems like accusations are a high-reward low-risk prospect for women in the industry. It circulates your name for free, and no one holds you accountable for tarnishing a man’s reputation.

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By: Karmafan https://mikesouth.com/industry/poison-love-nikki-hearts-and-leigh-raven-26543/#comment-32829 Thu, 21 Jun 2018 18:42:50 +0000 http://mikesouth.com/?p=26543#comment-32829 Apparently she is not aware of alot of things as she killed her porn career for nothing.

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By: Kelli https://mikesouth.com/industry/poison-love-nikki-hearts-and-leigh-raven-26543/#comment-32828 Thu, 21 Jun 2018 18:30:33 +0000 http://mikesouth.com/?p=26543#comment-32828 As I have recently learned, the raw “nanny cam” footage was submitted to the authorities who watched the entire thing and immediately closed the case, with no charges being filed.

They were also given access to the foot filmed professionally and found that the match up perfectly with the raw nanny cam footage. This is no doubt in large part what led them to conclude Leigh Raven’s version of the story was false.

Leigh Raven also claims in a recent AVN that the investigator said it was a borderline snuff film. No such statement appears anywhere on the authorities detailed notes of the case. Perhaps Leigh Raven was not aware that police reports including the officer’s detailed notes, including victim interviews, are a matter of public record.

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By: Rebecca Wise https://mikesouth.com/industry/poison-love-nikki-hearts-and-leigh-raven-26543/#comment-32827 Thu, 21 Jun 2018 14:40:08 +0000 http://mikesouth.com/?p=26543#comment-32827 I agree with most things you say Mharris. When she was asked at the end if she was abused and said “no” I believe that was enough to rest any investigation. In order to prove any abuse claims extraordinary proof would have to be presented. The police are not going to try a case they are not positive they will win. They know nothing about editing and are just viewers of porn. I have to watch the video again in its entirety to determine if any editing could have been done.

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By: mharris127 https://mikesouth.com/industry/poison-love-nikki-hearts-and-leigh-raven-26543/#comment-32824 Thu, 21 Jun 2018 01:55:25 +0000 http://mikesouth.com/?p=26543#comment-32824 Rebecca, I know editing techniques have become very good but the only cuts I noticed were when private information that obviously needed to be cut out was exchanged. I know Leigh claims the shoot was six hours but I think that is another one of her lies, the nanny cam tape was almost three hours and seemed to be complete except for maybe one minute where legal names, addresses and the like were recorded on the original. Many gonzo shoots only take three hours to film from talent arrival to talent departing. For the record (IIRC) Voice edited the nanny cam tape to remove them (and posted or had posted the footage on YouTube), not Just Dave. If I am mistaken she can respond and correct me. The police also viewed the tape in it’s entirety. I know cops and prosecuting attorneys can be bribed but I don’t think that is what happened in this instance, LAPD and probably (as a direct employee of the county taking orders from the county commission which sets policy for the county) the LA County DA are itching to run porn out of LA County (in my opinion the condom mandate showed that perfectly in LA City, County officials have acted similarly like placing the FSC anti-condom mandate booth in front of a toy shop purposely to embarrass them) and if the case had been there this would have been a rare opportunity to do it. With this in mind I trust the LAPD on this one — if they say nothing happened then I tend to believe them — these cops literally put their jobs on the line essentially going against county policy not pursuing the case against Just Dave.

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By: Rebecca Wise https://mikesouth.com/industry/poison-love-nikki-hearts-and-leigh-raven-26543/#comment-32822 Thu, 21 Jun 2018 01:10:42 +0000 http://mikesouth.com/?p=26543#comment-32822 I was not referring to the comments section I was referring to the article posted on this website. The nanny cam is not complete unfortunately which is why I am not completely convinced. There are scenes where she is to throw up the apples she was eating throughout the shooting of this video. The claim is she was forced to vomit Apple chunks while Rico supposedly forces her to continue deepthroating his cock. None of this is shown. A nanny cam is only reliable if it is uncut uncensored and complete from start to finish and to parade it around as such is false. I would love to watch the entire thing and stay as objective as I am. I feel the uncut footage would prove what really happened.

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By: mharris127 https://mikesouth.com/industry/poison-love-nikki-hearts-and-leigh-raven-26543/#comment-32799 Mon, 18 Jun 2018 05:59:41 +0000 http://mikesouth.com/?p=26543#comment-32799 Rebecca, I get your concerns. However, Voice is the one that got the nanny cam footage to post and prove that Rico, Dave and Dave’s crew were innocent here. I am a hard nut to crack when it comes to rape and assault accusations of this type. Without that tape I would probably have defended Skankledee and Skankledum, too. I agree with Voice that we commenters aren’t acting as journalists (I was a very part-time editor for a small local newspaper decades ago so I am familiar with the term as it applies to a newspaper, similar to this forum IMO — however, I wrote a grand total of one article for that newspaper and less than ten newspaper articles through my lifetime so I did not consider myself a journalist in that capacity) and shouldn’t be expected to. Do you think people writing for the “letters to the editor” section of your local newspaper should be held to the same standards as a writer-journalist? I think not. I certainly don’t wish to be held to the same standards as Voice, Sam, Reporter, Kelli, Erika, Mike and anyone else I have missed that actually writes for this site. I know I comment in a vastly different tone than I would write articles in (granted, writers here have to submit articles to the editor — who is no longer Mike South, he retired at the end of 2016 and is only submitting an article once or twice a month — whereas comments are generally posted unedited).

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By: Voice For Reason https://mikesouth.com/industry/poison-love-nikki-hearts-and-leigh-raven-26543/#comment-32798 Sun, 17 Jun 2018 21:51:24 +0000 http://mikesouth.com/?p=26543#comment-32798 In reply to Rebecca Wise.

No, genius, the comments section is not supposed to be journalism. It’s supposed to be reader comments.

“Anyone could start the rumor saying Riley admitted it was a lie, but why would she do that?” Umm, conscience?

And Leigh was not “afraid to voice her concerns”. Leigh didn’t like the scene and decided to torpedo it after being paid.

But wait — you saved the stupidest remark for last:

“Just as Nikki wasn’t there neither was the writer of this article.”

LOL I see that reading comprehension is not your strong suit. AT THE TIME THAT LEIGH AND NIKKI SHOT THEiR YOUTUBE VIDEO, the nanny cam footage had not yet been released. Nikki was completely in the dark and had ONLY Leigh’s version of evens to go off to, making her commentary superfluous hearsay.

AT THE PRESENT TIME, the nanny cam footage is available, so the author and everyone else can see exactly what did and did not happen when the cameras were rolling.

Read better people.

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By: Rebecca Wise https://mikesouth.com/industry/poison-love-nikki-hearts-and-leigh-raven-26543/#comment-32797 Sat, 16 Jun 2018 14:47:52 +0000 http://mikesouth.com/?p=26543#comment-32797 This is supposed to be journalism??? A bunch of unsubstantiated claims directed at a possible abuse victim? I’m assuming you are all biased like a mother fucker cause that’s all I see. Go back to school and stop making stuff up about people. Anyone could start the rumor saying Riley admitted it was a lie, but why would she do that? To torpedo her career the same way making the video affected all their careers? And no fucking wonder Leigh was so afraid to voice her concerns look what happened and now some fake website writes opinion based articles parading them around as fact. Trying to tear them all down. Just as Nikki wasn’t there neither was the writer of this article or Mike so how that keeps being used to back the ridiculous claims is beyond me. You all look pathetic to a bystander looking in. Be better people.

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