Comments on: If You Are A Performer You Are Being Played Like A Cheap Kazoo https://mikesouth.com/condoms-2/if-you-are-a-performer-you-are-being-played-like-a-cheap-kazoo-10468/ The institute for the advance study of insensitivity and pornography Thu, 13 Jul 2023 15:53:23 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: mharris127 https://mikesouth.com/condoms-2/if-you-are-a-performer-you-are-being-played-like-a-cheap-kazoo-10468/#comment-21071 Sun, 01 Jun 2014 07:28:24 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=10468#comment-21071 In reply to Lacey Blake.

Yes, his subtlety is lacking here, we all know who “Stag” is. For the record John Stagliano (who is HIV+) should not be having unprotected sex with anyone that doesn’t already have HIV, especially someone in the adult biz. I have read about rumors of John having sex with various different women over the years and discounted them because it is hard to believe that someone not already HIV+ would have sex with him with his HIV+ status well known. Other than that I can’t speak to the rumors truthfulness knowledgeably. I can say that he has a wife at home that evidently loves him (and is also HIV+) that he could probably fuck every night of the week if he wanted to. With that and his HIV+ status in mind he should not be fucking chicks willy-nilly (please note that I am not accusing him directly but only addressing Jilted’s statement). I hope the rumors that Jilted brought up here are false and no porn chicks get HIV from him but having read rumors about him fucking approximately six girls since the mid 2000’s I fear there may be at least partial truth to them.

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By: Lacey Blake https://mikesouth.com/condoms-2/if-you-are-a-performer-you-are-being-played-like-a-cheap-kazoo-10468/#comment-21069 Sat, 31 May 2014 23:12:41 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=10468#comment-21069 In reply to jilted.

@jilted –
Your subtlety is astounding… lol.

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By: jilted https://mikesouth.com/condoms-2/if-you-are-a-performer-you-are-being-played-like-a-cheap-kazoo-10468/#comment-21068 Sat, 31 May 2014 20:53:39 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=10468#comment-21068 A well known HIV+ director having sex with a currently working performer. Brings a whole new meaning to the term “Stag” film.

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By: MikeSouth https://mikesouth.com/condoms-2/if-you-are-a-performer-you-are-being-played-like-a-cheap-kazoo-10468/#comment-20854 Fri, 23 May 2014 02:11:44 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=10468#comment-20854 In reply to SabrinaDeep.

you misunderstand not trying to shut your mouth at all I like your comments here. there are a lot of people in the biz that would criticize you just saying you wont find them here. and it only seems like I support mandatory condoms when actually i support an honest condom neutral policy but it is occuring to me that as a whole the industry in LA is not responsible enough for that policy

and for the record…I agree with you
Doll 😉

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By: SabrinaDeep https://mikesouth.com/condoms-2/if-you-are-a-performer-you-are-being-played-like-a-cheap-kazoo-10468/#comment-20853 Fri, 23 May 2014 01:52:46 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=10468#comment-20853 In reply to jilted.

Jilted, if we are dealing with those kind of people, well…there is no hope. I always start from the assumption that we are talking about professionals, here. If we are not, then we know what the real problem is ;).
Mike, you are very sweet in trying to “shut” my mouth like the gentleman that you are. But i never felt criticized, on this thread, and when i’ve been on others and have been criticized, i honestly never gave a flying…well…you know what. It’s not about me. Rapid tests are not the ultimate solution, nothing is and we all know it. There is not ultimate safety when you throw yourself from a plane wearing a parachute, go figure when you “gamble” with STDs. I know you are a strong supporter of condoms and i see why so much that i couldn’t disagree about it, because, as you say, people working in porn are a “class” of their own. But i would like you to try to go beyond porn valley. Never forget that, especially lately, there are many performers who are coming from different realities and different countries. Porn today is not just porn valley and i would expect from someone like you to underline this. People in porn valley don’t understand a lot of things and that’s probably why they just found themselves whining about something that they have created themselves. I thought we were talking about safety in porn here and not about porn valley and their short sight. I would bet one of my boobs that beside your support for mandatory condoms, you have no faith at all in mandatory condoms getting even close to fix the lack of safety in porn valley. I hope you’ll not stop calling me doll when i insist saying that mandatory condoms will turn out to be a kick in the ovaries and gonads of adult performers’ safety. When you wear a full metal jacket you expect someone shooting at you, before or after. And it will happen sooner than later. I have an apology ready for you if i’m wrong. Just give me the benefit of 6 month time from the bill enforcement. Again, don’t stop calling me doll: nobody but you ever does and it feels good 😉

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By: MikeSouth https://mikesouth.com/condoms-2/if-you-are-a-performer-you-are-being-played-like-a-cheap-kazoo-10468/#comment-20852 Fri, 23 May 2014 01:28:06 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=10468#comment-20852 In reply to MikeSouth.

I just thought of something else…if one of my guys has a cold or anything they actually will call me and say hey Im gonna sit this one out as much as i love Lindsey Lovehands I dont wanna expose everyone else to this flu I have. that happened when I shot lindsey a couple weeks ago. that comes from being a tight knit group, we all even go out to dinner afterwards and hang out, the girls do too.

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By: MikeSouth https://mikesouth.com/condoms-2/if-you-are-a-performer-you-are-being-played-like-a-cheap-kazoo-10468/#comment-20851 Fri, 23 May 2014 01:23:54 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=10468#comment-20851 In reply to jilted.

I understand totally and I have even considered that in my case….its why I tell the guys up front that they can expect one of two results from that instant test negative or inconclusive, if it comes up inconclusive they just need to go test at a doctor. i wouldnt tell them they had tested positive. in the case of the instant tests the girl has the choice of verifying the result herself and I verify them as well. But remember I shoot in a very very closed loop, I readily admit that my situation wouldn’t be right for porn valley, though some aspects of it might be reasonable to use as additional precautions.

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By: jilted https://mikesouth.com/condoms-2/if-you-are-a-performer-you-are-being-played-like-a-cheap-kazoo-10468/#comment-20849 Fri, 23 May 2014 01:05:14 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=10468#comment-20849 I’ve never objected to Ora Quick tests as an addled layer of protection. But here is one big problem,,,,,what if someone comes up postive on the set that day? You can bet your bottom dollar that in less than two minutes everyone else on that set is going to pickup their smart phones and start tweeting that so and so just tested HIV positive.

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By: MikeSouth https://mikesouth.com/condoms-2/if-you-are-a-performer-you-are-being-played-like-a-cheap-kazoo-10468/#comment-20847 Fri, 23 May 2014 00:46:11 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=10468#comment-20847 In reply to LurkingReader.

@Sabrina I think that everyone should be as sensible about it as you are, both methodologies have flaws thats a given so you figure out what works in your situation and you make informed decisions and I think thats a good thing.

In porn that window period has been tossed around a lot but the truth is the window periods with 4th generation ELISA tests are very very close to the same as with the pcr and the antigen tests. I too use on the spot testing in addition to less frequent additional testing depending on if its just blowjobs or full on sex. In all my years in porn I have yet to have anyone catch anything on one of my sets (knocking on wood) people say I cant possibly know that dont understand how I shoot, I recruit, screen and vet my talent, male and female, I maintain contact with them, I am still in contact with girls I shot 10 years ago even though they may not have shot in ages, many times they come hang out at the shoots because over time we have all gotten to be a group of friends. People in porn valley cant possibly understand that because they have tunnel vision based on how they do things there. In short, like you I have a set up that works for me, one of my regular crew also happens to have a day job working for OSHA as an inspector and I have solicited his advice and I use it.

Another point….On the rare ocassion when a new guy wants to come into the group and I am letting someone in because one of the regulars got married or moved or whatever he first works as crew until he has a series of negative tests that spans 2 or 3 testing cycles because in my mind i would rather have a guy who has tested 5 or 6 times over a month or so on instant tests than a guy who has a single pcr test he did two or three days ago…that wouldnt necessarily work for porn valley but it does work for me and I suspect your situation is closer to mine than it is to porn valley.

Bottom line…keep up the good work doll, nobody here is going to criticize you for doing what works best for you.

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By: LurkingReader https://mikesouth.com/condoms-2/if-you-are-a-performer-you-are-being-played-like-a-cheap-kazoo-10468/#comment-20844 Fri, 23 May 2014 00:18:02 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=10468#comment-20844 In reply to SabrinaDeep.

@Sabrina

We may not see eye to eye on the whole picture but definitely not disagreeing or disagreeable 😉

May have grown up in day of fruit trucks, chip/soda and milk home delivery but I’m No stranger to reality of retribution or the fear it causes. Seems like as talent become producers they get wrapped up in new concerns and forget the promises they made themselves and peers…if I were the producer (fill in the blank) 😉

Yeah …the week after Duke spring break it was pretty clear she wasn’t heading back this semester…hope she actually uses her 15 minutes to lay out a solid game plan going forward.

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