Comments on: Judge Rules Condoms Mandatory for Porn in Whole State of California https://mikesouth.com/ahf/judge-rules-condoms-mandatory-for-porn-in-whole-state-of-california-9136/ The institute for the advance study of insensitivity and pornography Sat, 15 Jul 2023 15:31:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: common sense https://mikesouth.com/ahf/judge-rules-condoms-mandatory-for-porn-in-whole-state-of-california-9136/#comment-23983 Sat, 22 Nov 2014 21:36:51 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=9136#comment-23983 In reply to mharris127.

“Mark Speigler can open up a branch office in Fresno and get new porn chicks comfortable with the biz, then send them up to San Francisco to star in their Kink.com premiere (Mark is a good guy but I have to admit for some reason he gets most of the kinky performers as most of his talent performs at Kink regularly nowadays).”

WOW, harris? you sound like both a predator and recruiter for kink.com. Did you get the check in the mail from Acworth, yet?

looky here! harris is also endorsing mark Spiegler! Harris thinks he’s a good guy! LOL Harris!

WARNING:
Talent this IS PROOF that mark Spiegler is a scumbag.. notorious bullshitter mharris is endorsing him and likes him! STAY AWAY from Mark Spiegler! better yet stay away from all agents!

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By: mharris127 https://mikesouth.com/ahf/judge-rules-condoms-mandatory-for-porn-in-whole-state-of-california-9136/#comment-17532 Sat, 01 Feb 2014 06:15:04 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=9136#comment-17532 In reply to Rick Madrid.

My name is not Michael but thanks for the comment (maybe you were thinking Michael Whiteacre because of the Shelley Lub-and-Hate comment — definitely forgivable). I had forgotten about CA State Fresno — there should be lots of hotties on campus there. There usually are at colleges and universities.

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By: Rick Madrid https://mikesouth.com/ahf/judge-rules-condoms-mandatory-for-porn-in-whole-state-of-california-9136/#comment-17376 Wed, 29 Jan 2014 00:58:28 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=9136#comment-17376 Good points Michael about Fresno. The other thing is you have Calif State Fresno University there and Mark Spiegler would be able to recruit those fine ass Fresno Bulldog girls and have them also feature dance there to at some of the strip clubs lead and taught by Kristina Rose. Mark are you listening comprade? Holla….

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By: mharris127 https://mikesouth.com/ahf/judge-rules-condoms-mandatory-for-porn-in-whole-state-of-california-9136/#comment-17374 Tue, 28 Jan 2014 23:52:45 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=9136#comment-17374 In reply to Rick Madrid.

I for one am not interested in having dinner with Shelley Lub-and-Hate. That chick can go blow Marc Wallice. However, Fresno might be an interesting place to film and gather talent. My understanding is that most of Fresno’s population is poor (the ultimate impetus to lots of porn careers) and that city is close enough to Mexico (within 300 miles) that there are probably some hot Mexican chicks roaming around there for fresh off the bus talent (we always need more hot Mexican chicks in porn, especially kinky Mexican women). Mark Speigler can open up a branch office in Fresno and get new porn chicks comfortable with the biz, then send them up to San Francisco to star in their Kink.com premiere (Mark is a good guy but I have to admit for some reason he gets most of the kinky performers as most of his talent performs at Kink regularly nowadays).

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By: Rick Madrid https://mikesouth.com/ahf/judge-rules-condoms-mandatory-for-porn-in-whole-state-of-california-9136/#comment-17352 Tue, 28 Jan 2014 02:40:52 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=9136#comment-17352 Hell , Head for Fresno, those cops up there don’t give a crap or even Kern County. Shelly Lubben might have the Production crew and Talent over for dinner.

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By: BT https://mikesouth.com/ahf/judge-rules-condoms-mandatory-for-porn-in-whole-state-of-california-9136/#comment-17337 Mon, 27 Jan 2014 19:58:52 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=9136#comment-17337 I don’t always agree with Rob Black and almost never agree with the way he presents things. However, his take on the OSHA ruling makes a lot of sense. And, this is a guy who, after all, went to prison for thumbing his nose at regulations. http://www.adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=60282

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By: BT https://mikesouth.com/ahf/judge-rules-condoms-mandatory-for-porn-in-whole-state-of-california-9136/#comment-17332 Mon, 27 Jan 2014 11:31:37 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=9136#comment-17332 In reply to Lacey Blake.

Yep, scatology is a real thing. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/scatology. It’s also the science of the study of feces. And, it is generally accepted as obscene.
With the exception of certain places in Nevada, prostitution is a crime, so, OSHA isn’t relevant, just like OSHA doesn’t have workplace rules for breaking and entering. The cops can bust you, the criminal courts deal with the aftermath – you pay a fine or you go to jail or both.

But …. prostitution is legal in certain parts of Nevada. Once its a legal business activity, as it is in Nevada, then regulation comes into play just like any other business. It’s commerce, baby. You have to comply with zoning regulations, business permitting regulations, fire codes, the Department of Health, insurance requirements, unemployment and workers comp, and workplace safety rules, which would include OSHA. So yeah, OSHA could fine a place of prostitution in Nevada. The girls may be independent contractors, but the bar tenders, maintenance people, etc., could all get laid off and file for unemployment insurance. It’s like any other business.

Someone smarter than me would have to weigh in on the condom regulation. My guess is that its a civil fine and not a criminal penalty. But, if you have a business that is repeatedly fined for ignoring regulations and someone is then injured as a result of ignoring those regulations, there could be criminal charges.

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By: Elizabeth Wentz https://mikesouth.com/ahf/judge-rules-condoms-mandatory-for-porn-in-whole-state-of-california-9136/#comment-17328 Sun, 26 Jan 2014 22:21:11 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=9136#comment-17328 Elizabeth Wentz liked this on Facebook.

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By: Lacey Blake https://mikesouth.com/ahf/judge-rules-condoms-mandatory-for-porn-in-whole-state-of-california-9136/#comment-17326 Sun, 26 Jan 2014 20:16:32 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=9136#comment-17326 In reply to BT.

Scatology – Are you serious? Is that an actual term for playing and/or eating shit?
Holy shit, that’s funny!!!! (Pun intended)

So, could someone be arrested for not using condoms on set or would they just always be fined? Obscenity charges are punishable by jail time because it’s illegal, but not wearing condoms isn’t “illegal” so they would just face a ton a fines?
Do I have that even partially correct?

So, prostitution is “illegal” which is punishable with jail time. What constitutes whether you get arrested or not? OSHA can’t arrest people. So, you just pay the fine and you’re clear.. right?

The problem at this point is that the adult industry is fighting the increase in fines??
I think I’m still half asleep.. and my brain isn’t fully functioning yet.. hahahaa..

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By: BT https://mikesouth.com/ahf/judge-rules-condoms-mandatory-for-porn-in-whole-state-of-california-9136/#comment-17324 Sun, 26 Jan 2014 19:13:10 +0000 http://www.mikesouth.com/?p=9136#comment-17324 Lacey. The best way to think of the First Amendment is that it was freedom of speech/freedom of expression. There is a content, a message, an attempt at communication, no matter how abhorrent, insulting or repugnant the message. Prostitution falls under commerce, or the right to conduct business. Its transactional in nature. The courts have pretty much universally upheld the right to own pornographic materials in your own home, even in areas where its illegal to sell it. They have also pretty much universally upheld that sexually explicit material – everything from stripping to porn – is protected speech. After all, the message in the Big Wet Butts series – or Buttman, for that matter – is no different than Sir Mix-A-Lot: I like big butts and I cannot lie.

What’s illegal, as Rawalex points out, is obscenity and that’s been tough for the Supreme Court to define, so they punted and used community standards. That’s the reason that Rob Black was prosecuted in Pittsburgh or that Larry Flynnt was run out of Cincinnati and people have been prosecuted for selling sex toys in Alabama. The other rules they have upheld is child pornography, bestiality, and scatology.

It’s funny you mention public nudity – although I realize you were just musing. But, in Vermont and New Hampshire (and possibly Maine) it is legal to be buck naked in public as long as you are not lascivious. A few years ago, Brattleboro, Vermont, had a problem with a group of 8 or 10 senior citizens who met downtown on a regular basis to sunbathe in the altogether for a couple of hours on the public square. I’m not sure it was a First Amendment issue, but there was no regulation against it. Similarly, its legal to be naked in public in my home town under certain circumstances, and we get the occasional woman every summer who decides to slip off her top and sunbathe downtown. The message I take away from it is: It’s never the pretty ones who get naked in public.

It’s true that California and New Hampshire are the only two states where its expressly legal to film porn. That doesn’t mean its necessarily illegal everywhere else. It just means that it hasn’t been tested.

But, as Rawalex points out, even if its legal, it doesn’t mean that communities can’t regulate the heck out of it, which is what California potentially is doing with condom compliance and now the Cal-OSHA ruling. Other states could legally regulate where it could be produced under zoning laws; they could enact permitting fees that are onerous; they could pass their own condom laws and have regular health inspections like Nevada does with brothels. There is no First Amendment right to violate workplace safety standards.

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